Search warrant: Wisconsin woman beheaded with sword

[namvet]

could be a home grown terrorists

[NightTrain]

My first reaction was how awful it was. My second was I hope they figure it out. I DON'T have a need to jump in with a stereotype to tag onto a crime. There was a murder suicide here on Long Island a year ago - a son murdered his mother just before Halloween by beheading her and then jumped in front of a train. Anonymous murder by a Muslim fanatic is something bizarre to assume. People are, by and large, murdered by people they know. Nobody else is likely to get as pissed off at us as those we are closest to.

So you're claiming that the likelihood of the perp being a muzzie never once crossed your mind?

I find that hard to believe. You're smarter than that.

[Black Diamond]

So you're claiming that the likelihood of the perp being a muzzie never once crossed your mind?

I find that hard to believe. You're smarter than that.

When the second plane hit, did anyone think I wasn't Islamic??

[WiccanLiberal]

So you're claiming that the likelihood of the perp being a muzzie never once crossed your mind?

I find that hard to believe. You're smarter than that.

Not until I started reading this thread and I dismissed it as the least likely option.

[Gunny]

So you're claiming that the likelihood of the perp being a muzzie never once crossed your mind?

I find that hard to believe. You're smarter than that.

I don't like the presumption that someone using a sword is a Muslim. Hell, I'd LOVE to get into a sword fight with one of those Arab assholes. I've been able to use two different types of swords since my 20s. Give me a katana or a claymore and you better know your stuff.

Just because these idiot ISIS whackjobs like to use beheading as a means of outraging us doesn't mean a thing about the weapon. It's like blaming a gun. It ain't the weapon. It's the person using it.

[red state]

Due to the stories in the media and the way this lady was killed, most would jump to the same conclusion as Tyr did, it's just that Tyr stuck his neck out and said it. So he only said what many thought.

As for Obama, I haven't a clue about him so the 2nd prediction is over my head.

Greatly honest and fantastically open minded post, Nonnie......I'll remember this and appreciate the honesty immensely. Do we still know anything about the creep? I'll laugh my @$$ off when Tyr is right (AGAIN) and will commend him for at least being honest. To bad we have WAY too many dis-honest folks contributing to our downfall as a Nation of "OSTRICHES". Make no bones about it.......you're either of the two OR a REAL AMERICAN trying to do something about it and knows where our ROOT causes are!!!! Good for you, TYR!!!! I think this site is just fine.

[red state]

I don't like the presumption that someone using a sword is a Muslim. Hell, I'd LOVE to get into a sword fight with one of those Arab assholes. I've been able to use two different types of swords since my 20s. Give me a katana or a claymore and you better know your stuff.

Just because these idiot ISIS whackjobs like to use beheading as a means of outraging us doesn't mean a thing about the weapon. It's like blaming a gun. It ain't the weapon. It's the person using it.

No, I don't either cuz from what I've seen, these muSLUM trash don't know how to use a gun, knife or sword BUT they sure as HELL know how to victimize women. I'm not going to waste my time looking into what this creep was but it will still be interesting to know if he was a 'convert' or what I said......a momma's basement living lib.

[Gunny]

No, I don't either cuz from what I've seen, these muSLUM trash don't know how to use a gun, knife or sword BUT they sure as HELL know how to victimize women. I'm not going to waste my time looking into what this creep was but it will still be interesting to know if he was a 'convert' or what I said......a momma's basement living lib.

They can't shoot worth a fuck. Why do you think they use IEDs?

"Creep's" name is "target" at 1500 meters.

[Elessar]

Sundaydriver, you have to remember that Christians are also human, we're not aliens. We don't get it right all the time, we don't claim that we do. We follow the scriptures to the best of our ability, sometimes emotions build that lead us astray.

I've asked for many years and no Atheist has supplied one. Could you enlighten me as to what this stereotypical Christian criteria is please?

Sunday seems to bear being judgmental at the outset without questioning a member.

[sundaydriver]

Sundaydriver, you have to remember that Christians are also human, we're not aliens. We don't get it right all the time, we don't claim that we do. We follow the scriptures to the best of our ability, sometimes emotions build that lead us astray.

I've asked for many years and no Atheist has supplied one. Could you enlighten me as to what this stereotypical Christian criteria is please?

Anyone can fall into sin or be led astray by desires, lusts or fears. When did I become an atheist?

I doubt as good a Christian as some claim to be would rush to judgement to lay blame on a race with no facts, or want of facts to substantiate their fears and hatred just to say; see what they are capable of. And if not them it must be someone from that other group that I hate.

[sundaydriver]

Sunday seems to bear being judgmental at the outset without questioning a member.

I'm on his ignore list since the 1st time I questioned said member, so it's difficult.

My judgement is based on past similar posts. It took less than an hour for NT to post the full story to refute the OP's accusations. The OP could have easily found it also if he had wanted to since it was already out there at the time of his posting. He chose not to and went with his usual baseless ranting instead in the hope it would be true.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Why Islam beheads and why it beheads its victims far more than any other group/religion.
Beheaded victim= most likely culprit is a muslim.
Just AS car-bombing= most likely culprit is a muslim.
Facts do not lie. Any neither do I.. -Tyr


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Beheading is a formerly widespread execution method that has gradually been banned throughout the world. [1]
Contents [hide]
1 Beheading in Islamic scripture
2 Beheading in Islamic law
3 Historical occurences
4 Modern occurence
5 See also
6 References
Beheading in Islamic scripture[edit]
Instructions regarding decapitation are found in both the Quran, the Hadith as well as the Siras. The Quran itself mentions decapitation twice, including a verse concerning fighting unbelievers, in which it implores Muslims to "strike off their heads until you have crushed them completely; then bind the prisoners tightly."[2][3] Much of the justification for beheading however, comes from the Siras and Hadiths rather than the Quran itself. The Siras, the number of traditional biographies of Muhammad, speak of decapitation on numerous occasions, several of which portray beheadings ordered directly by Muhammad himself.
The Jews were made to come down, and Allah’s Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men. The affair continued until the Messenger of Allah had finished with them all.
— Al-Tabari, Vol. 8, p. 35
Beheading in Islamic law[edit]

Countries with decapitation as a legal penalty
In law but no longer in use
In law and in use
During the development of Islamic Law or Sharia, the majority of scholars supported beheading as a valid form of punishment within Islam. Influential medieval Muslim scholars such as Al-Zamakhshari and Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari considered beheading to be sanctioned by God as the punishment for unbelievers and blasphemous Muslims.[4][5]
Currently Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world which uses decapitation within its Islamic legal system, though it also a legal form of punishment in Iran, Qatar and Yemen. Numerous non-state actors, including Islamic organisations such as ISIL, Al Qaeda and other Jihadist groups use or have used beheading as a punishment.
Beheading is a legal form of execution in Iran, Qatar and Yemen, but the punishment has been suspended in those countries. The majority of executions carried out by the Wahhabi government of Saudi Arabia are public beheadings, which usually cause mass gatherings but are not allowed to be photographed or filmed. Since 2002, however, jihadist groups such as al-Qaeda and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant have been mass circulating beheading videos as a form of terror and propaganda.[6]
Historical occurences[edit]
Numerous occasions of beheadings by Muslims of non-Muslims have been recorded. Especially among the Ottoman military, who routinely decapitated captive enemies or those unwilling to convert to Islam.[7]
After the Battle of Zallaqa in 1086, 24,000 corpses of defeated Castilian soldiers were beheaded "and piled them up to make a sort of minaret for the muezzins who, standing on the piles of headless cadavers, sang the praises of Allah." The Almohads routinely beheaded Christian enemies after any lost battles.[8]
Following the Battle of Kosovo in 1389, the Muslim army beheaded the Serbian king and many Christian prisoners.[8]
Saladin personally beheaded Raynald of Châtillon, a knight who served in the Second Crusade after the Battle of Hattin.[9]
Following the Battle of Varna in 1444, the Ottomans beheaded King Ladislaus of Hungary.[10]
Following the Fall of Constantinople, the Ottomans sent the head of the dead Byzantine emperor to major cities in the sultanate.[11]
In 1463, the Grand Mufti of the Ottoman Empire personally decapitated King Stephen of Bosnia and his sons after their surrender.[12]
Forces of the Ottoman Empire invaded and laid siege to the city of Otranto and its citadel. After capture, more than 800 of its inhabitants – who refused to convert to Islam – were beheaded.[13]
In 1526 2,000 Hungarian prisoners of war were beheaded by the Ottoman army.[14]
In 1807 several hundred British prisoners of war who had been fighting in Egypt were decapitated.[15]
Muhammad Ahmad declared himself Mahdi in 1880 and led Jihad against the Ottoman Empire and their British allies. He and his followers beheaded opponents, Christian and Muslim alike including the British general Charles Gordon.[16]
Modern occurence[edit]
Modern instances of Islamist beheading date at least to the First Chechen War (1994–96), and to the beheading of Yevgeny Rodionov, a Russian soldier who refused to convert to Islam, whose subsequent beheading has led some within the Russian Orthodox Church to venerate him as a martyr.[17]
The 2002 beheading of American journalist Daniel Pearl by Al-Qaeda member Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in Pakistan drew international attention, attention enhanced by the intensity of hatred for Western culture and Jews expressed by the murderers, and by the release of a beheading video.[18]
Beheadings have emerged as a terror tactic in Iraq since 2003.[19] Civilians have borne the brunt of the beheadings, although U.S. and Iraqi military personnel have also been targeted. After kidnapping the victim, the kidnappers typically make some sort of demand of the government of the hostage's nation and give a time limit for the demand to be carried out, often 72 hours. Beheading is often threatened if the government fails to heed the wishes of the hostage takers. Frequently the crude beheadings are videotaped and made available on the Internet. One of the most publicized executions of an American was that of Nick Berg.[20][21][22]
Since 2004 insurgents in South Thailand began to sow fear in attacks where men and women of the local Buddhist minority were beheaded.[23] On 18 July 2005 two militants entered a teashop in South Thailand, shot Lek Pongpla, a Buddhist cloth vendor, beheaded him and left the head outside of the shop.[24]
According to Peter R. Neumann, Director of the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation and Political Violence at King's College London, viral beheading videos are intended as and are at least somewhat effective as a recruiting tool for jihad among both Western and Middle Eastern youth.[25][26] Other observers argue that while Al Qaeda initially used beheading as a publicity tool, it later decided that they caused Muslims to recoil from Islamism and that although ISIS/IS is enthusiastically deploying beheading as a tactic in 2014, it, too, may find that the tactic backfires.[27]

[Perianne]

Anyone can fall into sin or be led astray by desires, lusts or fears. When did I become an atheist?

I doubt as good a Christian as some claim to be would rush to judgement to lay blame on a race with no facts, or want of facts to substantiate their fears and hatred just to say; see what they are capable of. And if not them it must be someone from that other group that I hate.

Muslims commit 99.97 percent of all beheadings in the world. It is not a stretch to assume any beheading involves a Muslim.

[Gunny]

Anyone can fall into sin or be led astray by desires, lusts or fears. When did I become an atheist?

I doubt as good a Christian as some claim to be would rush to judgement to lay blame on a race with no facts, or want of facts to substantiate their fears and hatred just to say; see what they are capable of. And if not them it must be someone from that other group that I hate.

Perhaps. But ignoring the behavior of a race or religion is just dumb.

[WiccanLiberal]

Just because decapitation is a common form of execution in Arabic countries. Just because terrorists have used it. If the frequency of use is any indicator, why isn't the knee jerk reaction drug dealer? The most cursory exploration of the web reveals a plethora of beheadings and decapitations as a feature of Mexican and South American drug wars. In a fifteen minute search I found dozens of other articles about murders where beheading or post mortem decapitation was a significant feature. My first reaction still stands. It's so much easier to just attach a tag of Islamic terrorist than to wait for the additional information to surface and get the whole picture. I'm disappointed. I gave my fellow posters credit for more brains than that.