The ‘Never Trump’ Pouters

[jimnyc]

It has little to do with intelligence and more to do with desperation and placing blind hope in someone, anyone, that promises a 'fix' to the path we're on. Only problem is....the path we're on is due to big government and liberal regulations. Donald Trump has never seen a big government program that, like a true liberal, he didn't just luv. How the hell is he going to "fix" anything with that mindset? (rhetorical question, of course)

Hate to be the bearer of bad news again, but I'm not even remotely desperate in any way. But do you see what I'm getting at? Sure, Trump is discussed, but seems like every post from folks has to get some sort of dig in at those who support Trump as well. I think I'm one of the only ones who is not being emotional about all of this stuff. It seems folks are running high on emotions and posting as such. I'm trying to avoid any negativity and avoid it before it even has a chance to start. I do appreciate your opinion on Trump though!!

[jimnyc]

We're like a family that snarks and fights at family reunions....but still...

family. No biggie.

We can agree to disagree and do it with "passion".

Now that I like! That's how I like to describe things at times too! But you may not like my REAL family, we're some evil bastards!!

[DLT]

I'm all on board for term limits and NO 5 figure retirements.

Term limits? Hell....we can't even force the aholes in Congress to endure the same laws they force upon us, the peons whose taxes pay their salaries (in the real world, that would be called 'their bosses').

When they exempted themselves AND THEIR STAFF from the Affordable Care Act due to unaffordability...... it should have been pitchfork, tar and feather (and impeachment) time. It didn't happen then and now I'm resigned to the fact that it never will happen.

Bend over and enjoy the screwin we'll be getting from now on. Might as well.

[Gunny]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news again, but I'm not even remotely desperate in any way. But do you see what I'm getting at? Sure, Trump is discussed, but seems like every post from folks has to get some sort of dig in at those who support Trump as well. I think I'm one of the only ones who is not being emotional about all of this stuff. It seems folks are running high on emotions and posting as such. I'm trying to avoid any negativity and avoid it before it even has a chance to start. I do appreciate your opinion on Trump though!!

Really? I'm not emotional at all about it. I'm calculating. I think I was emotional once. I just don't remember when. I've honestly detached myself from this. I'm voting against the Dems. End of story. My threads/posts on Trump are all over this board from last year. THAT was the time to change course. Too late now. Now it's time to consolidate the remainder of the command and try to win.

[DLT]

Now that I like! That's how I like to describe things at times too! But you may not like my REAL family, we're some evil bastards!!

Lol! I have a really bad temper and a penchant/tendency to say exactly what's on my mind (Sagittarius trait). Needless to say, my real family has had some very interesting 'dinners'....hehe.

Once told a Brit bf of my cousin who was bitching about American schools vs. UK ones that perhaps he should return home, post haste...and why is he still here in the USA? It was a Thanksgiving meal, btw. Hey....I just said what others were thinking but didn't have the ballz to say out loud! lolol

[Gunny]

Lol! I have a really bad temper and a penchant/tendency to say exactly what's on my mind (Sagittarius trait). Needless to say, my real family has had some very interesting 'dinners'....hehe.

Once told a Brit bf of my cousin who was bitching about American schools vs. UK ones that perhaps he should return home, post haste...and why is he still here in the USA? It was a Thanksgiving meal, btw. Hey....I just said what others were thinking but didn't have the ballz to say out loud! lolol

Is that what's wrong with us? I'm Sagittarius.

[gabosaurus]

I would like to see Trump and Hillary answer a few questions that are on interest to many. Instead of merely spouting platitudes.

Will you be cutting military pensions? Trump has hinted that pensions and retirement benefits might have to be "adjusted."
What is your plan to clean up the mess that is the VA? Or will you just sweep the problems under the rug like past presidents?
Developing new weapons and expanding current ones would great benefit contractors and lobbyists. How do you stand on increasing pay and benefits to current military members and their families?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Lol! I have a really bad temper and a penchant/tendency to say exactly what's on my mind (Sagittarius trait). Needless to say, my real family has had some very interesting 'dinners'....hehe.

Once told a Brit bf of my cousin who was bitching about American schools vs. UK ones that perhaps he should return home, post haste...and why is he still here in the USA? It was a Thanksgiving meal, btw. Hey....I just said what others were thinking but didn't have the ballz to say out loud! lolol

I get the same grief for doing exactly that far too often.
My family tells me--Robert, please use a little "tact", I reply-- "no thanks I like a big hammer and long nails". -Tyr

[Elessar]

What would it take to get the term limits installed in congress?

Likely an Amendment to the Constitution. I doubt one would
pass, though. There are far too many good representatives there
to boot them due to the scum-bags.

Continuity comes to mind also.

[Black Diamond]

Likely an Amendment to the Constitution. I doubt one would
pass, though. There are far too many good representatives there
to boot them due to the scum-bags.

Continuity comes to mind also.

I'm amazed the 25th amendment passed. Given what it takes to amend....

[Drummond]

Some of us have been holding our nose and voting for that "lesser evil" for over two decades now. All to no avail. We're sick of having to do that. And once again, we see the writing on the wall where the GOP snatches defeat from the jaws of victory by choosing a "not conservative" candidate.

The FACT that Trump was, until 2011, a liberal NY Democrat, is a clear indication of the "why" he has deliberately (seemingly) alienated so many folks on the right. He's not supposed to win in November. He has, in the process....however, managed to destroy the GOP from within (also seemingly, since he's not really one of em). I liken it to a 'twofer' for Hillary and the Democrats.

Just my two cents.

I can only see this from my perspective of a media universally hostile to Trump ... and the reason they're hostile (.. so they say ..) is because he is seen to take, according to them, 'very extreme' Right wing positions. Nobody here is going to believe he has a liberal bone in his body.

For myself, I say ... 1. I like him because he's such a plain speaker, and 2. He isn't afraid of taking up causes that defy political correctness imperatives. He comes across as a figure who'll do what's right, whether or not he earns PC-based popularity from it.

I'd say the very same about Margaret Thatcher and her politics, and style of leadership. She proved to be a truly stellar political Leader of the 20th century.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I can only see this from my perspective of a media universally hostile to Trump ... and the reason they're hostile (.. so they say ..) is because he is seen to take, according to them, 'very extreme' Right wing positions. Nobody here is going to believe he has a liberal bone in his body.

For myself, I say ... 1. I like him because he's such a plain speaker, and 2. He isn't afraid of taking up causes that defy political correctness imperatives. He comes across as a figure who'll do what's right, whether or not he earns PC-based popularity from it.

I'd say the very same about Margaret Thatcher and her politics, and style of leadership. She proved to be a truly stellar political Leader of the 20th century.

ahhhh, but those with the crystal balls say they see him doing terrible things--while most of those saying such conveniently omit casting the same future predictions on Hillary--the winner if Trump is shunned.
Amazing tis it not???
Many even say they will not vote for Trump and do not care if that puts Hildabest in charge!!
Yet claim to be right wing--to that I say bullshit..
No true right-winger wants that corrupt, socialist monster in charge!!--TYR

[Kathianne]

ahhhh, but those with the crystal balls say they see him doing terrible things--while most of those saying such conveniently omit casting the same future predictions on Hillary--the winner if Trump is shunned.
Amazing tis it not???
Many even say they will not vote for Trump and do not care if that puts Hildabest in charge!!
Yet claim to be right wing--to that I say bullshit..
No true right-winger wants that corrupt, socialist monster in charge!!--TYR

Yet, those voting for Trump are just hoping they are not:

electing a socialist monster in charge!!--TYR

I'm not claiming to be 'right wing' never have, I am though conservative.

[Gunny]

ahhhh, but those with the crystal balls say they see him doing terrible things--while most of those saying such conveniently omit casting the same future predictions on Hillary--the winner if Trump is shunned.
Amazing tis it not???
Many even say they will not vote for Trump and do not care if that puts Hildabest in charge!!
Yet claim to be right wing--to that I say bullshit..
No true right-winger wants that corrupt, socialist monster in charge!!--TYR

I'm voting against Hillary. That simple.

It doesn't take a crystal ball though to see how he goes loose cannon every time he's baited. He needs to learn to just STFU. And if I have to listen to double adjectives for 4 years I'm gonna duct tape his mouth myself.

[Black Diamond]

Yet, those voting for Trump are just hoping they are not electing a socialist monster in charge!!


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I had the same audacity of Hope when I pulled the lever for Romney.