Income Inequality

[LuvRPgrl]

there are free clinics, an emergency room can't refuse service and don't take a job where the employer doesn't provide it....

In LA, if you are pregnant and arent employed, the Harbor General Hospital will deliver your baby for free.

Most minimum wage workers dont stay in that bracket.


MOst min wage earners are very young, and dont need medical care

The cries of the left are hollow, just meant to arouse emotions of sympathy for the poor, cough, cough, and anger towards the rich.

Americans are quite healthy for the most part. And as for being able to afford food, have you seen all the fat people walking around? Its unbelievable. After spending so much time in the Philippines, then coming back, it was amazing how many fat people there are. AND, it applies to filipinos over here too, the ones here are over represented by fat people compared to their home islands.

[Roadhouse158]

You are venting without a lot of data to support you

Fact is, the middle class is bigger and stronger than ever.
The reason for more govt intervention is because of bleeding heart libecrats, not because of restrictions on business

In fact, the business world has been doing fantastic. Coming out with new technology, faster, cheaper easier ways to produce, means people who own things like cell phones, tv's, cars, houses, is unprecedented.

You cant possibly tell me we arent doing pretty good when I walk up to a guy who is obviously living in his Toyota corolla, and ask him if he wants to work on my house, he says, sure, but hold on I have to do something first. He whips out his cell phone......

First, I am not venting. One has to be angry to vent. I am not angry. I am discussing issues with posters. Secondly, you point that I am not using facts. Neither are you. I will give you some facts from a textbook. I use a text book so we won't get replies about something being a rightwing source, or a leftwing source. That is the general reply someone uses if they don't agree with the "facts". I am using information from chapter 32 in the McConnel/Brue Economics 17th edition.
The top 1/10 of the population receives 30% of income. Only four other countries have that much disparity. Guatemala, Brazil, South Africa, and Mexico. Not a group I want to be in company with, when dealing with fairness in wages. Another fact is 50.1 percent of income goes to 20 percent of households. So 50% of income goes to 20% of the people.
That is Income Inequality. I am not discussing how people spend their money; I am not discussing poverty; I'm not even discussing politics. I am discussing inequality. This country ranks with the four above as countries with the highest inequalities in the world. BTW...The textbook uses information from census.gov. A quote from the book....."The data in the table suggest CONSIDERABLE inequality of household income in the United States." There's your facts.
Now...Don't think about suggesting that I am a liberal. If you read other threads, you will see I am far from it. Also, Michael Savage talks about inequality being very real. I would hardly call him liberal either. What I am not is blind. My wife and I are lucky enough to have a very comfortable living. We both work in health care, so our incomes are desirable. I am not saying this out of anger or jealousy. I am just very concerned how our country is headed. As much as I hate John Edwards, who supposedly represented my state in the US Senate, we are on our way to two Americas.

[LuvRPgrl]

First, I am not venting. One has to be angry to vent. I am not angry. I am discussing issues with posters. Secondly, you point that I am not using facts. Neither are you. I will give you some facts from a textbook. I use a text book so we won't get replies about something being a rightwing source, or a leftwing source. That is the general reply someone uses if they don't agree with the "facts". I am using information from chapter 32 in the McConnel/Brue Economics 17th edition.
The top 1/10 of the population receives 30% of income. Only four other countries have that much disparity. Guatemala, Brazil, South Africa, and Mexico. Not a group I want to be in company with, when dealing with fairness in wages. Another fact is 50.1 percent of income goes to 20 percent of households. So 50% of income goes to 20% of the people.
That is Income Inequality. I am not discussing how people spend their money; I am not discussing poverty; I'm not even discussing politics. I am discussing inequality. This country ranks with the four above as countries with the highest inequalities in the world. BTW...The textbook uses information from census.gov. A quote from the book....."The data in the table suggest CONSIDERABLE inequality of household income in the United States." There's your facts.
Now...Don't think about suggesting that I am a liberal. If you read other threads, you will see I am far from it. Also, Michael Savage talks about inequality being very real. I would hardly call him liberal either. What I am not is blind. My wife and I are lucky enough to have a very comfortable living. We both work in health care, so our incomes are desirable. I am not saying this out of anger or jealousy. I am just very concerned how our country is headed. As much as I hate John Edwards, who supposedly represented my state in the US Senate, we are on our way to two Americas.

Apparently you didnt read my post. I dont need statistical facts to support my conclusion. Mine is drawn from the rights granted under the Constitution, and if I am correct, then the matter as to whether or not we should cut taxes becomes moot.

Its kinda like selling a car, person a wants to sell, person b doesnt. They argue whether or not they will make money on the sale. Then suddenly person c steps in and shows that the ownership is in his name, the arguement between a and b bevcomes moot.

[Hobbit]

Why don't you socialist jackasses get off your income inequality high-horse and go look up some income MOBILITY stats? I think that you'll find that a very tiny fraction of those in the top or bottom quintiles is still there after 5 years.

[Roadhouse158]

Apparently we are not understanding each other. Your talking about the constitution, and I haven't one time mentioned it. I think we are arguing over two subjects that aren't comparative to each other. My discussion on CEO pay being extremely high has nothing to do with the constitution. My point is we have become a nation that pays enormous sums of money to a select few. I don't have any idea why this started. A CEO isn't going to be any better at strategic thinking making $10 million a year than he would if he made $3 million a year. This isn't a Republican vs Democratic argument. This inequality has been growing wider and wider for some 30 years. The only way this involves the government is through taxing. Taxing, however, has nothing to do with income. Income plays a role in taxing. The government can't fix this problem. Only the free market itself can. The only way that will happen is if enough people complain. I don't mean keep the CEO pay high, and then raise lower level pay. My suggestion is to cut CEO pay, and increase the lowest wages so profit isn't affected. And Hobbit....Stop throwing around names like socialist. Your ignorant. Socialist want the government to intervene. If you want to keep defending this practice, in can come back to bite you in the butt. Lose your job, even with an MBA, or another advanced degree and you'll be stuck working harder, making less money; And maybe without insurance. Stop being so ethnocentric. You need to look at the big picture...Not just the one that your trying to accomplish.

[LuvRPgrl]

Why don't you socialist jackasses get off your income inequality high-horse and go look up some income MOBILITY stats? I think that you'll find that a very tiny fraction of those in the top or bottom quintiles is still there after 5 years.

Not to mention, if they are so concerned about the poor, why dont they donate more money to the IRS?

[Immanuel]

Not to mention, if they are so concerned about the poor, why dont they donate more money to the IRS?

What the heck are you talking about? They donate plenty of money to the poor. In fact, they donate every bit of our tax dollars they can steal to the poor that they can get away with. This relieves their conscience. You see by promoting exorbitant taxes on "the rich" (defined in each of their minds as anyone having more money than they) they feel that they have done their duty to the poor and thus no longer need to give.

It is some kind of psychobabble they live by and believe me it works.

Immie

[Roadhouse158]

Not to mention, if they are so concerned about the poor, why dont they donate more money to the IRS?

It's a sad country when people want the government to take care of everything.
Talk about socialist.

[LuvRPgrl]

What the heck are you talking about? They donate plenty of money to the poor. In fact, they donate every bit of our tax dollars they can steal to the poor that they can get away with. This relieves their conscience. You see by promoting exorbitant taxes on "the rich" (defined in each of their minds as anyone having more money than they) they feel that they have done their duty to the poor and thus no longer need to give.

It is some kind of psychobabble they live by and believe me it works.

Immie

Actually, even if someone makes more money than them, they will think the other person should be taxed more. After all, they are doing such great/humanitarian work for the poor, that they should be exempted as "rich"

Al Gore flies a private jet to all his speeches on global warming.

obama, Hillary and Edwards all went to Washing to support enviormental bills, and legislation to force citizens to cut back on their "extras" in life, they then went and caught private planes to return to Iowa. See, they are all exempt.