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    Default U.S. Funds Ukraine Groups Censoring Critics, Smearing Pro-Peace Voices


    U.S. Funds Ukraine Groups Censoring Critics, Smearing Pro-Peace Voices
    American taxpayers are footing the bill for Ukrainian NGOs focused on smearing proponents of a diplomatic solution as "Russian disinformation" agents.
    Lee Fang
    Apr 11



    This investigation was reported in collaboration with RealClearInvestigations.

    Ukraine’s American-backed fight against Russia is taking place not only in the blood-soaked trenches of the Donbas region but also on what military planners call the cognitive battlefield – to win hearts and minds.

    A sprawling constellation of media outlets organized with substantial funding and direction from the U.S. government has not just sought to counter Russian propaganda but has supported strong censorship laws and shutdowns of dissident outlets, disseminated disinformation of its own, and sought to silence critics of the war, including many American citizens.

    Economist Jeffrey Sachs, commentator Tucker Carlson, journalist Glenn Greenwald, and University of Chicago Professor John Mearsheimer are among the critics on both the left and the right who have been cast as part of a “network of Russian propaganda.”

    But the figures targeted by the Ukrainian watchdog groups are hardly Kremlin agents. They simply have forcefully criticized dominant narratives around the war.

    Sachs is a highly respected international development expert who has angered Ukrainian officials over his repeated calls for a diplomatic solution to the current military conflict. Last November, he gave a speech at the United Nations calling for a negotiated peace.

    Mearsheimer has written extensively on international relations and is a skeptic of NATO expansion. He predicted that Western efforts to militarize Ukraine would lead to a Russian invasion.

    Greenwald is a Pulitzer Prize-winning independent journalist who has criticized not just war coverage but media dynamics that suppress voices that run counter to U.S. narratives. “What they mean when they demand censorship of ‘pro-Russia propaganda’ is anything that questions the US/EU role in the Ukraine war or who dissents from their narratives,” Greenwald has observed.

    There’s no evidence of Kremlin influence over their viewpoints, but their comments alone are enough for a network of U.S.-backed Ukrainian media groups to tarnish these experts as Russian propagandists.

    U.S. taxpayer dollars are flowing to outlets such as the New Voice of Ukraine, VoxUkraine, Detector Media, the Institute of Mass Information, the Public Broadcasting Company of Ukraine and many others. Some of this money has come from the $44.1 billion in civilian-needs foreign aid committed to Ukraine. While the funding is officially billed as an ambitious program to develop high-quality independent news programs; counter malign Russian influence; and modernize Ukraine’s archaic media laws, the new sites in many cases have promoted aggressive messages that stray from traditional journalistic practices to promote the Ukrainian government’s official positions and delegitimize its critics.... RealClearInvestigations

    FYI "NGO" often translates "CIA".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego..._organizations
    https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/st...Os-Do-More.pdf
    https://gazettengr.com/cia-officer-r...-under-buhari/
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/04/03...igence-agency/
    Last edited by revelarts; 05-17-2024 at 04:22 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post

    U.S. Funds Ukraine Groups Censoring Critics, Smearing Pro-Peace Voices
    American taxpayers are footing the bill for Ukrainian NGOs focused on smearing proponents of a diplomatic solution as "Russian disinformation" agents.
    Lee Fang
    Apr 11



    This investigation was reported in collaboration with RealClearInvestigations.

    Ukraine’s American-backed fight against Russia is taking place not only in the blood-soaked trenches of the Donbas region but also on what military planners call the cognitive battlefield – to win hearts and minds.

    A sprawling constellation of media outlets organized with substantial funding and direction from the U.S. government has not just sought to counter Russian propaganda but has supported strong censorship laws and shutdowns of dissident outlets, disseminated disinformation of its own, and sought to silence critics of the war, including many American citizens.

    Economist Jeffrey Sachs, commentator Tucker Carlson, journalist Glenn Greenwald, and University of Chicago Professor John Mearsheimer are among the critics on both the left and the right who have been cast as part of a “network of Russian propaganda.”

    But the figures targeted by the Ukrainian watchdog groups are hardly Kremlin agents. They simply have forcefully criticized dominant narratives around the war.

    Sachs is a highly respected international development expert who has angered Ukrainian officials over his repeated calls for a diplomatic solution to the current military conflict. Last November, he gave a speech at the United Nations calling for a negotiated peace.

    Mearsheimer has written extensively on international relations and is a skeptic of NATO expansion. He predicted that Western efforts to militarize Ukraine would lead to a Russian invasion.

    Greenwald is a Pulitzer Prize-winning independent journalist who has criticized not just war coverage but media dynamics that suppress voices that run counter to U.S. narratives. “What they mean when they demand censorship of ‘pro-Russia propaganda’ is anything that questions the US/EU role in the Ukraine war or who dissents from their narratives,” Greenwald has observed.

    There’s no evidence of Kremlin influence over their viewpoints, but their comments alone are enough for a network of U.S.-backed Ukrainian media groups to tarnish these experts as Russian propagandists.

    U.S. taxpayer dollars are flowing to outlets such as the New Voice of Ukraine, VoxUkraine, Detector Media, the Institute of Mass Information, the Public Broadcasting Company of Ukraine and many others. Some of this money has come from the $44.1 billion in civilian-needs foreign aid committed to Ukraine. While the funding is officially billed as an ambitious program to develop high-quality independent news programs; counter malign Russian influence; and modernize Ukraine’s archaic media laws, the new sites in many cases have promoted aggressive messages that stray from traditional journalistic practices to promote the Ukrainian government’s official positions and delegitimize its critics.... RealClearInvestigations

    FYI "NGO" often translates "CIA".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego..._organizations
    https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/st...Os-Do-More.pdf
    https://gazettengr.com/cia-officer-r...-under-buhari/
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/04/03...igence-agency/
    Your thread title is pure 1950's yellow journalism. Counter intel is part of war. Rejecting propaganda is part of war. Government censorship is part of war.

    What they are combatting is lies that result in capitulation labeled "peace". Not an original thought. Neville Chamberlain was all about "peace at all cost". IIRC, he gave away as if it was his right the Sudetenland-then the whole of Czechoslovakia, Austria, and the Rhineland in the name of a piece of paper that said "peace" on it. That worked. Until September
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Your thread title is pure 1950's yellow journalism. Counter intel is part of war. Rejecting propaganda is part of war. Government censorship is part of war.
    let's all take for granted that that's true.
    The govt lies to & censors everyone during war.

    Is what you're saying is that we are in fact at war with Russia so it's OK to lie & censor anything?
    Including our own citizens who speak against the war lies or just speak against the govt position?
    Do the people get a voice in whether or not we want to be at war? congress declare it or anything?
    And if it's NOT a war. Is it illegal THEN for our gov't to lie to & censor the public including the media?
    Last edited by revelarts; 05-17-2024 at 05:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    let's all take for granted that that's true.
    The govt lies to & censors everyone during war.

    Is what you're saying is that we are in fact at war with Russia so it's OK to lie & censor anything?
    Including our own citizens who speak against the war lies or just speak against the govt position?
    Do the people get a voice in whether or not we want to be at war? congress declare it or anything?
    And if it's NOT a war. Is it illegal THEN for our gov't to lie to & censor the public including the media?
    Did you vote? You had your say. So did everyone else.

    Last time the government maintained a tight grip on the war and information, we won. Once it didn't, they turned into crap shoots like is going on in Israel right now. Results speak for themselves. Do you want to be right, or do you want to win? Without achieving the latter, the former is moot.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    crazy offensive Alex Jones... and politico
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...ussia-00160731


    So if Iran & Syria supplies Hamas with weapon that strike Israel that means that Iran & Syria are fair game for "strategic" retaliation.

    So if the U.S. supplies weapons that strike Russian cities...?
    WW3?

    Call me whatever name you want this Sh!t need to stop.
    You want to kill Russians for Ukrainian GO. But don't do it in my name. or send send troops or weapons in my name.

    Looks to many like Biden is trying to be a "war time president" so he can keep the seat at this point.
    Some of us are praying for peace.
    Last edited by revelarts; Yesterday at 06:57 AM.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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