I must not be in on the memo that explains why this is a good way to go.
Why Senate conservatives are taking a populist turn - Live Updates - POLITICO
I must not be in on the memo that explains why this is a good way to go.
Why Senate conservatives are taking a populist turn - Live Updates - POLITICO
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
Conservatism is so passe.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
Kansas and Alabama make no sense.
Last edited by revelarts; 05-27-2024 at 01:28 PM.
It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
I've never agreed to your definitions or concern about "populist".
But if I have to pick a candidate that's has more conservative policies, or polices that are for the American people vs big gov't/big biz or "free markets" that impoverish and practically enslave folks then yes, I'll lean that way nearly every time.
The American people overall are the focus ... if they're the populist your'e concerned about, then yes, i'm with them 1st policy wise.
As the constitution outlines... you know, "We the People" the population, the free people, the citizens.
Last edited by revelarts; 05-27-2024 at 09:24 PM.
It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16
I'm sorry but have I said that you should never vote for a populist conservative? If I did then please point that out so I can correct or modify my position on the matter if necessary. You're not required to accept my absolutely correct definition of populism and my absolutely correct characterization of it as evil but you should accept the fact that populism is not conservatism. Please do not tell me that the small government side of the spectrum moving into micromanagement of the free market is anything but negative.
The problem with regulation is that it ultimately favors big business and harms small business. It favors those with the resources to adapt to regulations whether it's one story where big firms desire regulation so as to keep down competition, or another story where those with expertise demand that licensure be instated to keep down competition, or the government story that has them decide to pass down rules that everyone else needs to live by. Is there a functional difference between these that does not result in your "impoverish and enslavement" outcome? Please tell me how this trend is anything but alarming? In any of those cases I'm sure someone has said that it's "for the people."
I seem to recall you for years saying that there is no difference between the parties. That it's just a matter of speed away from the individual and away from the Constitution. How is populism any different?
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
I don't think you have.
what you have said is
"populism and my absolutely correct characterization of it as evil"
So one might assume you wouldn't want people to vote for evil.
but sure sometime we can understand that we're politically limited to evil choices.
It's My absolutely correct POV that Populist are far less evil than Big gov't, big biz globalist, Socialist/Marxist, Soft Sell military Imperialist or 'Free Market' Corporatocracy.
If the "free market" had morals or self regulating checks and weren't already beginning the micromanagement of everyone's lives and buying and selling all of people's personal information & even using gov't to force people to take their products or else,
well then the small govt side wouldn't see some govt roadblocks as necessary. Again, laws against human trafficking are not negative. And are a definite block to "free markets".
Small gov't can and should STOP harmful trade and trade practice.
"free markets" are not an ABSOLUTE good.
Last i checked only God fits that description.
Yes, especially when the Big Biz writes the rules. (see big Pharma, big Ag, Big Oil, Wall St. MIC, etc)
And enforcement is targeted at small rather than large biz.
You know like jail for poor st drugs addicts vs Joe Biden's son or the Bush daughters.
yes, pretty much,
Ds travel at 100mph
Rs travel at 25mph with Wall St & Military Industrial complex trailers they claim we must have or we'll all die.
I can't remember exactly, but I think you've said before that populism does not have any fixed ideology.
That being the case, it seems to me that much of the current populist trending policy Talk & ACTIONS run a bit CLOSER to constitutional lines than has the past "conservative" "free market" "small govt", democrat, republican, ACTIONS.
Here's the thing, if the Reagans, Bushes, Gingriches, Romneys, McCains, etc had done more of what they SAID small gov't wise, constitution wise, there would be no populist trend for you and others to be distressed about.
But folks were more worried about politics, "broad appeal" etc rather than doing the right thing or what they said to the conservative base to get elected.
Last edited by revelarts; 05-28-2024 at 09:44 AM.
It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16
That's a fair point. But sometimes you ally with Stalin to defeat Hitler. But you're missing the point. Populism ends up at Socialism because it doesn't know where to end. Something AHZ demonstrated for us but didn't understand.
The free market is its own check if it's allowed to be so. But you're getting into the weeds here. Nobody said that there is no rule of law under free markets. IMO government should regulate when the free market breaks down; company towns, human trafficking, pollution, etc. but not when someone gets a bugaboo about "junk fees."
It looks like you agree with me there.
And the solution is not for the Republicans to get out and start pushing by embracing populist views. The solution is for them to return to their ideological small-government roots which is not happening.
That is correct. I have said that and I stand by it. But there is nothing IMO of the current crop of populists running closer to constitutional lines than a traditionally conservative, small-government, position. A Constitutional populist is an oxymoron.
No question that Republicans haven't governed from a true conservative position but it seems you're making my point. They went for broad appeal which I didn't really decry as populist at the time but wasn't it? I'd argue that the most success they've had electorally speaking is sticking to conservatism. '94 CwA, 2010 response to ACA, etc. When they go for broad appeal they lose because why vote for the expansionist Republican when you can just vote for the Democrat because a Democrat will always outpromise a Republican.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
Last edited by revelarts; 05-28-2024 at 05:30 PM.
It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16
It wasn't populist. They had specific complaints and they laid out a governing ideal. Life, liberty, property; a philosophy of liberalism.
The Revolutionary War wasn't even necessarily that popular.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho