I passionently believe that many american women dress inappropriately each day

[Kathianne]

Honestly, Cheyenne, I think men look at more porn because with the Internet, there simply is more porn to look at. And it can be done so easily, anonymously and privately.

I believe that skirt lengths and neck lengths have gone up and down prior to the 'women's lib' movement. Now that's not to be confused with the Women's Suffrage Movement.

Some women dress too young. Some tween girls dress too old. Some women just dress inappropriately, but I doubt that any of it has to do with the 'libbers' more likely bad taste or weird mirrors.

In any case, none is an excuse for rape or other violent or demeaning behavior on the part of men.

[Mr. P]

I believe that skirt lengths and neck lengths have gone up and down prior to the 'women's lib' movement. Now that's not to be confused with the Women's Suffrage Movement.

Some women dress too young. Some tween girls dress too old. Some women just dress inappropriately, but I doubt that any of it has to do with the 'libbers' more likely bad taste or weird mirrors.

In any case, none is an excuse for rape or other violent or demeaning behavior on the part of men.

Hey! I saw a report on just this...some store..I wanna say Target but apparently it's industry wide...had mirrors in the dressing room that purposely make you look slimmer.

[Cheyenne]

"Lower"... yes. She may never do porn again, but that doesn't dismiss the fact that she already has.

Kind of like a car that's been in an accident. No matter how good a job they do fixing it, there will still always be tell tale signs it's been in an accident, and it will never be worth what it would have been had it not been in an accident.

I was just trying to see if you were sticking to your guns, is all. Glad to hear it.

[Pale Rider]

I was just trying to see if you were sticking to your guns, is all. Glad to hear it.

I never waver. I am an Oak.

[Cheyenne]

Honestly, Cheyenne, I think men look at more porn because with the Internet, there simply is more porn to look at. And it can be done so easily, anonymously and privately.

But why? Why are men spending time at the computer looking at naked women doing who-knows-what when they could be in the bedroom with their wife?

[Mr. P]

But why? Why are men spending time at the computer looking at naked women doing who-knows-what when they could be in the bedroom with their wife?

Cuz she has a headache?

[Pale Rider]

But why? Why are men spending time at the computer looking at naked women doing who-knows-what when they could be in the bedroom with their wife?

'Cause she's fat and unattractive?

[Hagbard Celine]

But why? Why are men spending time at the computer looking at naked women doing who-knows-what when they could be in the bedroom with their wife?

Because we enjoy looking at naked women pretty much all the time?

[Cheyenne]

I never waver. I am an Oak.

I have to add this, She may not be up to par by our standards but Jesus says He makes all things new.

[Pale Rider]

I have to add this, She may not be up to par by our standards but Jesus says He makes all things new.

You mean forgive her for her sins? Yes I/we can do that too, but that doesn't erase them.

We are mere mortal men and women. What Jesus is capable of doing is far greater than what any of us will ever be capable of, even when we go to heaven.

[Cheyenne]

Because we enjoy looking at naked women pretty much all the time?

'Cause she's fat and unattractive?

Cuz she has a headache?

These excuses have nothing to do with men & porn.
They are just excuses; even tho' they seem to be universal. Why do you suppose that is? What are men doing or not doing to cause their wives to behave in this manner?

[Hagbard Celine]

These excuses have nothing to do with men & porn.
They are just excuses; even tho' they seem to be universal. Why do you suppose that is? What are men doing or not doing to cause their wives to behave in this manner?

My girlfriend never gives me excuses. She's pretty much rip-roarin' to go anytime. But I still look at porn and the reason is because I like looking at naked women pretty much all the time!

[Cheyenne]

You mean forgive her for her sins? Yes I can do that too, but that doesn't erase them.

We are mere mortal men and women. What Jesus is capable of doing is far greater than what any of us will ever be capable of, even when we go to heaven.

Oh I agree. But that goes back to my original statement about our past. As humans it's very hard for us to get over something someone has done or said, especially if it's rather hurtful to us. Yet this is what we are to strive for. We should be able to look at that person as whole & new.

[Pale Rider]

These excuses have nothing to do with men & porn.
They are just excuses; even tho' they seem to be universal. Why do you suppose that is? What are men doing or not doing to cause their wives to behave in this manner?

"If" I had a wife, and she was fat and unattractive, I wouldn't feel as though looking at porn was an excuse for anything. I'd be doing it because I didn't want to look at my wife.

With that said, if I wasn't sexually attracted to my "significant other," I wouldn't be married to her. No excuses involved, and vise versa. Either you turn each other on or you don't. Find somebody new.

[Kathianne]

These excuses have nothing to do with men & porn.
They are just excuses; even tho' they seem to be universal. Why do you suppose that is? What are men doing or not doing to cause their wives to behave in this manner?

Well today it's the internet. 15 years ago, video stores, with hee hee, backrooms. 25 years ago, playboys and such in brown wrapper at 7-11. 35 years ago, stacked under the brother's bed. I believe 'pin-ups' were very popular during WWII? Maybe not quite as racy or disgusting as today, but I'm sure it was looked at for the same reasons.