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    Default Iran's Provocation

    Next time the US should just shoot:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080107/...e/us_navy_iran

    Pentagon says ships harassed by Iran

    By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer 4 minutes ago

    An Iranian fleet of high-speed boats charged at and threatened to blow up a three-ship U.S. Navy convoy passing near Iranian waters, then vanished as the American ship commanders were preparing to open fire, the top U.S. Navy commander in the area said Monday.

    No shots were fired an an Iranian official in Tehran said the incident amounted to "something normal."

    Bush administration officials complained that the Iranian actions amounted to a dangerous provocation, but one private analyst said the Iranians may have believed they were acting defensively in a narrow waterway that is heavily trafficked by commercial ships, including oil vessels.

    The incident raised new tensions between Washington and Tehran as President Bush prepared to depart Tuesday on his first major trip to the Middle East.

    The three U.S. warships — cruiser USS Port Royal, destroyer USS Hopper and frigate USS Ingraham — were headed into the Persian Gulf through the Straits of Hormuz on what the U.S. Navy called a routine passage inside international waters when they were approached by five small high-speed vessels believed to be from Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy.

    The Iranians "maneuvered aggressively" in the direction of the U.S. ships, said Vice Adm. Kevin Cosgriff, the commander of U.S. 5th Fleet, which patrols the Gulf and is based at nearby Bahrain. The U.S. ship commanders took a series of steps toward firing on the boats, which approached to within 500 yards, but the Iranians suddenly fled back toward their shore, Cosgriff said.

    Cosgriff was not precise about the U.S. ships' location but indicated they were about three miles outside Iran's territorial waters, which extend 12 miles from its shores, headed in a westerly direction after having passed the narrowest point in the straits.

    At one point the U.S. ships received a threatening radio call from the Iranians, "to the effect that they were closing (on) our ships and that the ships would explode — the U.S. ships would explode," Cosgriff said....

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    The Iranians are at war with us in everything but name.

    They attack our troops in Iraq
    They supply the terrorists with weapons (or they did, i havent heard much from Iraq in forever)
    They harass and threaten our ships in the gulf.

    Can you imagine how things will change if they do attack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Next time the US should just shoot:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080107/...e/us_navy_iran
    I'd love to see the aftermath of those Iranian versions of PT boats attacking a cruiser, detroyer and frigate. Well, actually, there wouldn't be much left to see.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Default Merge?

    http://debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=10597
    My thread is timewise before, but I don't care about that. Just don't want several threads going here and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    The Iranians are at war with us in everything but name.

    They attack our troops in Iraq
    They supply the terrorists with weapons (or they did, i havent heard much from Iraq in forever)
    They harass and threaten our ships in the gulf.

    Can you imagine how things will change if they do attack?
    They started this war on November 4, 1979.
    Last edited by hjmick; 01-07-2008 at 10:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    They started this war on November4, 1979.
    why does everyone always forget that.......

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

    ~Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    why does everyone always forget that.......
    Forget Hell. I joined the Corps because I thought we were going to war with Iran.

    Guess I "underestimated" the flexibility of Jimmy's so-called spine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    why does everyone always forget that.......
    I'll never forget those 444 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    I'll never forget those 444 days.
    Far as I'm concerned they STILL owe us for that one .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Forget Hell. I joined the Corps because I thought we were going to war with Iran.

    Guess I "underestimated" the flexibility of Jimmy's so-called spine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Far as I'm concerned they STILL owe us for that one .....
    Fuckin A

    Dumbasses in Lebanon are also in the debtors column.
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