Contact these turncoats...

[TheStripey1]

I agree with you that he would not have made a good president. Neither does Bush though. Maybe a better quality of candidate is needed...

Amen... preferably from a third party... one NOT beholding to corporate interests...

[OCA]

Amen... preferably from a third party... one NOT beholding to corporate interests...

There is one, the Constitution party only they don't ever have a chance in hell of winning, no 3rd party will ever have a chance.

[TheStripey1]

Just curious. I haven't been here long and thought I might have missed it. You seem to have lots of conversations with soldiers and vets and I was trying to put it in context. For me - I haven't personally served. Just the wife of a CSM with over 20 years service as a combat engineer.

As for validity - I always put more validity in the opinions of those who have served.....that experience factor thing.

so uhhhh, why are you a bush supporter? Do you consider his service in the National Guard as enough experience to run a war?

How about Cheney?

[TheStripey1]

murtha and cleland both wanted more troops to win the peace before they voted not to send more troops to win the war.....

i love nuance

ahhh, but what about bush/cheney? where are their war experiences? oh that's right, they had other things to do...

[OCA]

ahhh, but what about bush/cheney? where are their war experiences? oh that's right, they had other things to do...

And they still got elected twice! Damn Americans must be friggin stupid, eh?

[TheStripey1]

And Bush got what?

A hangover and a bus ride home from Tuscaloosa?

I repeat.....

At least Kerry served and was in harm's way.

The only danger Mr. Bush was in came when they took attendance at his Air National Guard meetings.

don't forget the flight physical he dodged...

[TheStripey1]

To come in and in your first post insult members is quite arrogant. You need to take message boards as you find them. Most of us have been on this board's predecessor together a long time, and we like each other fine.
If it's not your cup of tea...

offtopic: what was the other board?

[TheStripey1]

What is to the right of attila the hun?

the right wingers, of course... and you know who they are...

[manu1959]

ahhh, but what about bush/cheney? where are their war experiences? oh that's right, they had other things to do...

what does bush and cheney's experiences have to do with murtha and cleland's decision?

[5stringJeff]

OK, I didn't read through all 384 preceding posts, but here's the only point I'd like to make here:

If the Democrats were really serious about bringing the troops home, etc.etc., they would have passed a BINDING resolution to do so. This resolution isn't worth the paper it's written on. For all we know, the President is getting his toilet paper imprinted with the words of this resolution so it might serve some purpose.

From a Democratic political standpoint: right now, the war is very unpopular, and the Dems won the midterm elections partially because of the war's unpopularity. So if the Dems can still use the war in 2008 as an issue to get votes, they will. Therefore, the Dems will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to bring the troops home in the next 23 months. Why? Because they are using the war as a political issue to gain the White House. That's why the only thing coming out of Congress is a non-binding resolution.

[TheStripey1]

Stripey: You are a feline agent provocateur.

Thanks GW... somebody has to do it... and I volunteered...

[TheStripey1]

That's simply dishonest. I mean VERY dishonest. If you wanna debate at LEAST be honest.

The world invaded to ENSURE Saddam didn't have WMD. The World thought He did. He CLAIMED to have them.

(shrug).

It wasn't the Bushies. It was "The Free World".

bush started beating his saddam has got wmd therefore he has to go drum back in the spring of '02... were you asleep?

it was then... spring of '02 that I stopped supporting bush... it was january of '03 that I stopped being a republican...

bush invaded iraq... not The Free World... bush...

oh sure, there were a few token troops sent in by a few token countries... but The Free World??? nope...

and obtw... how many of those are STILL there now?

[TheStripey1]

Now that's just disingenious.

In GWB'S March 22, 2003 radio address, he said:




http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20030322.html

Saddam no longer poses a threat to world peace... and there are no wmd...

can we go home now?

[TheStripey1]

Don't they have another one now, something like, if we don't fight 'em in Baghdad, we'll be fighting 'em in NYC and San Fran?

yeah... and don't forget that in July of '03, he invited anyone that wanted to harm our troops, to...

Bring Em On!

I wonder if bush is pleased with their response to his challenge...

[TheStripey1]

Its a gyro.

Love gyros... (pronounced hero)...