Have you ever...

[actsnoblemartin]

you lying piece of garbage, you asked me if we could start repping each other on here and at usmessageboard, and would even go so far as to bitch at me on days where i didnt give you youre double rep here, and youre 4-6 reps there.

My conchence is clear, I have stopped repping you altogether, because you talk shit behind my back, waterrescue's back, and youre rude, mean, and vicious to everyone on this board, youre not worthy of being my friend, let alone anyone's else

Atleast I have the balls to come clean and tell the truth, and accept the consequences, and I wanna gonna leave your name out of it, take all the blame, even if it meant a perma ban, and all my rep lost, but you have to continue to be a no class jerk, a liar, and a mean vile person

Screw you

I'm calling him more then that.

[nevadamedic]

you mean like how we invaded Iraq because we had reason to believe he might have WMD's?

What do you say to the poor arab guy who was picked up in error... taken to Gitmo... tortured... only to find out that he really wasn't a terrorist after all?

"Oops... sorry.... here are your fingernails back"?

What about the millions of Iraqui's that were slaughtered? What about the hundreds of women that were raped and murdered by Saddam and his family members and sons? What about the Olympic athletes who were tortured and killed for not placing in the Olympics? What about all the funding, weapons and praise Saddam gave Bin Laden and his bunch of pansies? What about Saddam wanting to control the Middle East with the threat of Nuclear Weapons? What about all the other crimes against humanity that Saddam and his family and sons committed?

You are an idiot the WMD's that Saddam had were only a small part of it. You just let your typical uneducated Liberal hates everything logical attitude tak over.

[nevadamedic]

you lying piece of garbage, you asked me if we could start repping each other on here and at usmessageboard, and would even go so far as to bitch at me on days where i didnt give you youre double rep here, and youre 4-6 reps there.

My conchence is clear, I have stopped repping you altogether, because you talk shit behind my back, waterrescue's back, and youre rude, mean, and vicious to everyone on this board, youre not worthy of being my friend, let alone anyone's else

Atleast I have the balls to come clean and tell the truth, and accept the consequences, and I wanna gonna leave your name out of it, take all the blame, even if it meant a perma ban, and all my rep lost, but you have to continue to be a no class jerk, a liar, and a mean vile person

Screw you

You are obviously a compulsive liar and wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. Go back and watch your porn little boy and let th adult's talk.

[Abbey Marie]

Actually I did not say it was okay. Note: I said the 19 who pulled off 9/11. Unless they have been reincarnated or re-animated, it would be a little difficult to torture them.

Actually, you went beyond the 19 when you typed this:

but until you prove that the people whom you are speaking of had anything to do with 9/11, well, I just think it is wrong. IMHO

It more than implies that if these other people did have anything to do with 9-11, it's ok.

If this were true then the police should be able to bust down your door and arrest you on suspicion that you are planning on murdering your spouse at some point in the future ie just on suspicion not on conspiracy.

Immie

You are comparing enemy combatants with US citizens. Apples and oranges, and not mandated by our Constitution.

Btw, ask any battered woman how she feels about having to wait until her husband/boyfriend actually puts her in ICU, or in the grave, before the police will step in.

[actsnoblemartin]

cant face the truth can you?

You are obviously a compulsive liar and wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. Go back and watch your porn little boy and let th adult's talk.

[retiredman]

Why do you assume our intelligence guys are so inept that picking up the wrong guy would be so commonplace as to make it your major concern? That's an unsubstantiated attitude, that looks only at th emost negative possibilites. And before you go all 'WMD' on me, that intelligence was believed and proposed by most if not all of the major intelligence agencies in the world. Why are you so sure WMD's were never there? Do you have evidence of their non-existence? Say I believe they were moved out of Iraq in the endless months in the run up to the war. Prove to us that they were not moved.

Focusing on one imaginary mistaken guy is a deflection. What about all the guys who are correctly picked up? What do you do if you believe they have crucial information that can avoid a major attack on our country, but they refuse to speak? Shrug and say "Oh well..."?

Disproving a negative after the fact is really nothing I care to engage in... we were told that there was no doubt about the presence of stockpiles of WMD's. We were told, in fact, that we even knew where they were. Moved? They could have been teleported to an alien spacecraft for that matter....but I don't think that's very likely either. I am betting that they were used or destroyed or became ineffective due to degradation and Saddam didnt want to lose street cred with his neighbors so he continued to bluster about as if he still had them... that doesn't matter. He didn't have them. We had, according to our President, one real mission and that was to disarm Saddam... and we have spent five years, nearly a trillion dollars and 31K dead and wounded to disarm a guy who didn't have arms to begin with... and you seem to be just fine with that.

Regarding torture...It doesn't have to be commonplace. Is torturing innocents only onerous to you if we torture LOTS of them?

In regards to your question: I would use aggressive interrogation techniques that stop just short of torture.

[actsnoblemartin]

From the classy nm


Actually your the liar and you dont want to play this game with me little boy

[Immanuel]

Actually, you went beyond the 19 when you typed this:



It more than implies that if these other people did have anything to do with 9-11, it's ok.

No, it did not imply that... it implied nothing more than that the burden of proof is upon you... see what jumping to conclusions gets you?

You are comparing enemy combatants with US citizens. Apples and oranges, and not mandated by our Constitution.

So, to be accused means one is guilty?

Not mandated by our constitution?

Must the Constitution mandate what is right before we do it?

We are talking about human rights. Rights that President Bush wants you to believe can be removed at any time because of a perceived fear. Rights that every human being is entitled to whether or not he or she is a citizen of the U.S.

And we sure as heck are not talking about what they in the Middle East would do to us if they caught us. I learned that age old statement about two wrongs don't make a right at about 5 years old.

Btw, ask any battered woman how she feels about having to wait until her husband/boyfriend actually puts her in ICU, or in the grave, before the police will step in.

Ask the man whose wife falsely accuses him of beating her what he thinks about the presumption of innocence and fair treatment by those in authority.


Immie

[nevadamedic]

From the classy nm

full disclosure: i neg repped him first: I thought about if i should, and decided to because he was being rude and vile to me

and the little basterd threatens me

Actually your the liar and you dont want to play this game with me little boy

this is what i said in my neg rep: Your a liar, and a cheap shot artist

Yup, I tend to negative rep liars and people who negative rep me.

[actsnoblemartin]

I dislike you, but not enough to risk losing all my rep power and points and/or being perma banned.

You can act like roger clemons all you want, but all i really need to know is my conchence is clear, and I will no longer pos rep or neg rep for no reason, or because they are my friends.

I feel good about myself, and no matter what you call me, or do, im at peace with myself.

Yup, I tend to negative rep liars and people who negative rep me.

[actsnoblemartin]

edited by request

[actsnoblemartin]

edited by request

[Yurt]

Yup, I tend to negative rep liars and people who negative rep me.

dude, everyone knows you belonged to the rep club. last summer OCA ripped you about your low rep when you have such a high post count. immediately thereafter you went on a repping spree from hell.

[MtnBiker]

Yup, I tend to negative rep liars and people who negative rep me.

Are you trying to deny that you and few other members have repped each other to purposely gain rep points?

If you are trying to deny such I suggest you think about doing so. I do have access to rep comments and can prove otherwise.

[JohnDoe]

First and utmost, i rep people when they break the tension and make me laugh, no matter what side of the aisle they are on, wit and humor usually provokes a positive rep by me.

then i rep posts that i agree with or that i think a hidden point is made quite well.

Then sometimes i rep people gbecause i want to say howdy or make another point to their post but do not want to tyoe a post or go in to sending a pm.
(that could be wrong, but i have done this)

all and all, i don't think the rules should change, even if people are abusing it....i am really not a rules kind of person when it comes to message boards.

jd