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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Oh. So I can call you a smelly Greek with no repercussions? Cool.
    Your vaudeville act is wearing thin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Your vaudeville act is wearing thin.
    Taaa-Daaaa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Your vaudeville act is wearing thin.
    Sorry man. I actually like Greeks. We just had the greek festival in atl a couple months ago. It was kickass.

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    In simple summation, the Noahide movement is in essence a return to the outmode Old Testament life of living by Mosaic Law in order to appease, please, or in some way get God to accept you.

    Jesus fullfilled the Law in full at the cross, and now we are justified by "grace" alone through faith in the one and only one who was capable of fullfilling the Mosaic Law.

    Both Jew and Gentile was come to the same Saviour, and both will be saved/converted/, be born from above/ or born again via the same way..........through faith in the finished work of Jesus at Calvary's cross. Jesus was the propitiation, and attonement for man's sinful nature.

    Grace = unmerited favor = we couldn't in anyway through are own volitional acts, please God, or fullfill the requirements of the Law. The Law condemmed us, as "dead" in our sins/trespasses. The Law indeed is good, as it showed us our depraved state.

    Noahidic teaching wants to ressurrect pre-Mosaic law living and have a convoluted idea that there are basic Laws that weren given to Adam and Eve and finally to Noah that seem to say it all, and supercede all other Laws.

    Noahidic teaching also can't accept the fact that Jews can also become Christians and accept Christ through faith as gentiles have for many centurys. In fact the first converts to Christianity were Jews...........It started at Pentacost in Jerusalem when the 11 apostles preached to the multitudes of Jews that were gathering in Jerusalem for the Pentacost holidays, and many became believers immediately after hearing Peter speak with unheard of power. Also these Jews came from many nations and didn't speak Hebrew or aramiac yet they all miraculously understood what the Apostles were pronoucing.

    They are nowadays called Messianic Jews......or Jews who have found their Messiah.........They are Christian Jews. Noahidic followers totally deny this and of course are totally disagreeing with direct biblical accounts.
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    They are not much different from the folks that the Apostle Paul encountered while dealing with problems with the gentile church at Galatia. In his letter/epistle to the Galatian Christians, he/Paul warned them of a group of Jews he called "Judiazers". These folks were telling the Gentile Christians that they were really not abiding in the true Christian faith unless they were circumcized and adopted many Jewish/religious ordinances. Paul chastised these folks he called Judiazers, as folks trying to drag these new believers back into living by the Law or Laws of the Jews to be acceptable or justified before God.

    Paul taught correctly that the desire to obey God was not an external thing with the true believer/Christian, but was a desire that was supernaturally placed in every man and woman who became converted or born-again. It was the Holy Spirit that had come to reside in the believer and motivated the believer in his/her's deepest inner man/woman to desire to love, and obey God. External warnings and do's and don't in order to please God were no longer necessary, and of course never did meet God's criteria, as man could only fail by trying to be good, when his inner self was still lost and not converted with the residing Holy Spirit in his soul.
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    I totally agree! The Noahidic movement is totally unbiblical, and it is totally opposite of God's teachings both in the O.T. and N.T.. It is spurious, and possible dangerous if it takes hold with large numbers of people. It has no room or appreciation for anyone or anything unless it is gentile in nature.

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    Eightball. What do you think of my pet theory that dispensationalism is a trojan horse placed inside christianity by masons to convert them into noahides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Eightball. What do you think of my pet theory that dispensationalism is a trojan horse placed inside christianity by masons to convert them into noahides?
    How about you let me get back to you on that topic. I need to do a little, refresher research on the dispensationalism verses covenants doctrines topic.

    Currently I'm dealing with Calvinism and Arminianism with a couple Christian folks/buddies and a bible study I'm involved with. It's been an interesting journey, too.

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