The electoral map keeps getting more and more blue!

[Yurt]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ama_vs_mccain/

And Obama leads in VA, NC, WI, MN and they are still grey!

after the hockey mom shows the world how shallow her grasp of damned near everything is on Thursday, the map will get even MORE blue!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mccain/?map=10

just a few more months and this long national nightmare will be over!

i would not put any weight in polls right now, nobody really understands what is going on. when this economic situation settles down, you may find the polls doing the opposite. relying on a poll right now is like trying to guess the which way the wind is going to blow when you are all by yourself out in the ocean with nothing but you and your trusty kayak.

[retiredman]

i would not put any weight in polls right now, nobody really understands what is going on. when this economic situation settles down, you may find the polls doing the opposite. relying on a poll right now is like trying to guess the which way the wind is going to blow when you are all by yourself out in the ocean with nothing but you and your trusty kayak.

I am not relying on anything. Today, an American president and his treasury secretary, even with the help of 60% of his OPPOSITIOn, couild not convince any more than onme third of his own party in congress to vote to save the economy....

and look what happened to the DOW as a result.

The economy is the albatross about McCain's neck and his own party tied him to the whipping post today. He suspended his campaign to go get a deal done in DC...remember? The democrats came through and helped a great deal on this republican bill. The republicans did not. Lousy leadership. time for a change.

[red states rule]

I am not relying on anything. Today, an American president and his treasury secretary, even with the help of 60% of his OPPOSITIOn, couild not convince any more than onme third of his own party in congress to vote to save the economy....

and look what happened to the DOW as a result.

The economy is the albatross about McCain's neck and his own party tied him to the whipping post today. He suspended his campaign to go get a deal done in DC...remember? The democrats came through and helped a great deal on this republican bill. The republicans did not. Lousy leadership. time for a change.

and the 95 Dems who voted against it MFM? Any comment on them?

On another thread, you were happy people were going to suffer because of the Dow drop

Where was Obama. Why was he not getting more Dem votes so it would pass? Was he on the phone to campaign contributers and not Dem House members?

[Yurt]

and the 95 Dems who voted against it MFM? Any comment on them?

On another thread, you were happy people were going to suffer because of the Dow drop

Where was Obama. Why was he not getting more Dem votes so it would pass? Was he on the phone to campaign contributers and not Dem House members?

yup

[retiredman]

yup

since when does a democratic speaker of the house have to deliver more than a majority of democrats to support a republican president's bailout bill, but his own party - with his own party's presidential nominee giving us a preview of the clout he would have with the republicans in congress were he elected - cannot even muster up one third of their own members?

Certainly...if even MORE of a majority of democrats had held their noses and voted for Hank and Dubya's republican bailout plan, it would have passed. But that ignores the fact that if even the barest of majorities of the president's own fucking party had supported him - at the urging of your obviously persuasive presidential candidate - it would have passed with votes to spare.

[red states rule]

since when does a democratic speaker of the house have to deliver more than a majority of democrats to support a republican president's bailout bill, but his own party - with his own party's presidential nominee giving us a preview of the clout he would have with the republicans in congress were he elected - cannot even muster up one third of their own members?

Certainly...if even MORE of a majority of democrats had held their noses and voted for Hank and Dubya's republican bailout plan, it would have passed. But that ignores the fact that if even the barest of majorities of the president's own fucking party had supported him - at the urging of your obviously persuasive presidential candidate - it would have passed with votes to spare.

When have a majority of Republicans supported this plan?

I'll wait

BTW, 12 Dems who sit on Barney Frank's committee voted NO - as well as 5 Dem Chairmens of othe committees

[manu1959]

When have a majority of Republicans supported this plan?

I'll wait

BTW, 12 Dems who sit on Barney Frank's committee voted NO - as well as 5 Dem Chairmens of othe committees

not to mention this is the same crowd that votedto force banks to give loans to "the poor".....now everyone is shocked "the poor" defaulted on their obligations.....

[manu1959]

since when does a democratic speaker of the house have to deliver more than a majority of democrats to support a republican president's bailout bill, but his own party - with his own party's presidential nominee giving us a preview of the clout he would have with the republicans in congress were he elected - cannot even muster up one third of their own members?

Certainly...if even MORE of a majority of democrats had held their noses and voted for Hank and Dubya's republican bailout plan, it would have passed. But that ignores the fact that if even the barest of majorities of the president's own fucking party had supported him - at the urging of your obviously persuasive presidential candidate - it would have passed with votes to spare.

the bill was not even remotely similar to what bush proposed......and thank god it wasn't approved.....

[retiredman]

the bill was not even remotely similar to what bush proposed......and thank god it wasn't approved.....

It was what team Bush negotiated and it was a bill that Bush and McCain both supported...and one that McCain....your party's nominee for president, was unable to convince any but a handful of your own party faithful to support....now THAT's what I call presidential leadership!!!

[Silver]

since when does a democratic speaker of the house have to deliver more than a majority of democrats to support a republican president's bailout bill, but his own party - with his own party's presidential nominee giving us a preview of the clout he would have with the republicans in congress were he elected - cannot even muster up one third of their own members?

What a warped fuckin' brain you have...Its a bailout plan for Bush on one hand....but R's don't support it....
I guess that somehow makes sense to you.....but even the average working brain can deduce that this conclusion doesn't compute....

then, when it doesn't pass, its now R's being petty and putting politics before the country....
Suddenly the plans purpose is not to bailout Bush
Suddenly the plan is for the good of the country....

the fuckin logic at play boggles the mind....



Certainly...if even MORE of a majority of democrats had held their noses and voted for Hank and Dubya's republican bailout plan, it would have passed. But that ignores the fact that if even the barest of majorities of the president's own fucking party had supported him - at the urging of your obviously persuasive presidential candidate - it would have passed with votes to spare.

Pelosi wanted this crap bill...and couldn't deliver enough votes...."for the good of the country", the majority party failed again as it has for almost 2 years...

[retiredman]

Pelosi wanted this crap bill...and couldn't deliver enough votes...."for the good of the country", the majority party failed again as it has for almost 2 years...

Pelolsi delivered a majority of democrats...

and your president and your presidential nominee also wanted this bill and they couldn't ever deliver a third of their votes!

[avatar4321]

I am not relying on anything. Today, an American president and his treasury secretary, even with the help of 60% of his OPPOSITIOn, couild not convince any more than onme third of his own party in congress to vote to save the economy....

and look what happened to the DOW as a result.

The economy is the albatross about McCain's neck and his own party tied him to the whipping post today. He suspended his campaign to go get a deal done in DC...remember? The democrats came through and helped a great deal on this republican bill. The republicans did not. Lousy leadership. time for a change.

Amazing, your congressional leaders cause a problem then get to hang it around President Bush's neck. I know you are happy that this will get your guys back in power, but the fact is your guys will continue to screw us over. And unfortunately they will get help by traitors in our own party.

[manu1959]

Amazing, your congressional leaders cause a problem then get to hang it around President Bush's neck. I know you are happy that this will get your guys back in power, but the fact is your guys will continue to screw us over. And unfortunately they will get help by traitors in our own party.

not to mention they couldn't "save" the economy today....

[red states rule]

not to mention they couldn't "save" the economy today....

First thngs first. Pelsoi must have been busy saving the planet from drilling instead of counting votes

[REDWHITEBLUE2]

Stupid ass Liberals like MFM Put all their hope in dumb ass polls Just like 2004 when Libturds believed Traitor John Kerry would Carry 48 States then he got BITCH slapped same thing will Happen to the RACIST NEGRO OBAMA