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    Default George Bush destroyed the Republican party

    In 2000, the Republicans had it all......

    • Control of the White House
    • Control of both Houses of Congress
    • A slim majority on the Supreme Court, with the prospect of more conservative justices to come


    And now, just 8 years later, the Republican party is in ruins. Both Houses of Congress are firmly under Democratic control. The white House will be in Democratic hands for the next 8 years. And Barack Obama will be filling vacant seats on the Supreme Court with Justices who are in tune with his political viewpoint.

    What happened?

    Two words......George Bush. In just 8 years this intellectual lightwight with the frat boy mentality completely reversed the balance of power in the U.S. His disastrous Iraq war was mostly to blame. But Bush also turned people against him...and the Republicans...by his ham-handed handling of the Hurricane Katrina disaster, by trying to appoint his cleaning lady to the Supreme Court, and by generally being an out-of-touch, incompetent putz.

    Way to go, George......

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    Quote Originally Posted by GW in Ohio View Post
    In 2000, the Republicans had it all......

    • Control of the White House
    • Control of both Houses of Congress
    • A slim majority on the Supreme Court, with the prospect of more conservative justices to come


    And now, just 8 years later, the Republican party is in ruins. Both Houses of Congress are firmly under Democratic control. The white House will be in Democratic hands for the next 8 years. And Barack Obama will be filling vacant seats on the Supreme Court with Justices who are in tune with his political viewpoint.

    What happened?

    Two words......George Bush. In just 8 years this intellectual lightwight with the frat boy mentality completely reversed the balance of power in the U.S. His disastrous Iraq war was mostly to blame. But Bush also turned people against him...and the Republicans...by his ham-handed handling of the Hurricane Katrina disaster, by trying to appoint his cleaning lady to the Supreme Court, and by generally being an out-of-touch, incompetent putz.

    Way to go, George......
    Not at all

    Republicans acted more like liberal so the voters went with the real liberals. Reagan conservatism wins everytime - yet Republcians walked away fromt he principals and were fired

    Liberalism fails everytime it is used - as we will all learn once again as DC will have liberalsim running amok


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    If you say so..
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
    Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Not at all

    Republicans acted more like liberal so the voters went with the real liberals. Reagan conservatism wins everytime - yet Republcians walked away fromt he principals and were fired

    Liberalism fails everytime it is used - as we will all learn once again as DC will have liberalsim running amok
    You are both right.

    George Bush by his liberal leadership destroyed the Republican Party.

    Immie
    For it is by Grace you have been saved, through faith -- and this not of yourselves, it is the gift of God -- not by works, so that no one can boast. Eph 2:8-9

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    Quote Originally Posted by GW in Ohio View Post
    In 2000, the Republicans had it all......

    • Control of the White House
    • Control of both Houses of Congress
    • A slim majority on the Supreme Court, with the prospect of more conservative justices to come


    And now, just 8 years later, the Republican party is in ruins. Both Houses of Congress are firmly under Democratic control. The white House will be in Democratic hands for the next 8 years. And Barack Obama will be filling vacant seats on the Supreme Court with Justices who are in tune with his political viewpoint.

    What happened?

    Two words......George Bush. In just 8 years this intellectual lightwight with the frat boy mentality completely reversed the balance of power in the U.S. His disastrous Iraq war was mostly to blame. But Bush also turned people against him...and the Republicans...by his ham-handed handling of the Hurricane Katrina disaster, by trying to appoint his cleaning lady to the Supreme Court, and by generally being an out-of-touch, incompetent putz.

    Way to go, George......
    Nah the republican party was destroyed long before George took control. You were just to stupid to notice before some liberal told you what to think and say.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanuel View Post
    You are both right.

    George Bush by his liberal leadership destroyed the Republican Party.

    Immie
    and Obama will up the level of liberalism

    Look at all the confidence Wall St has in Obama and his tax and spend policies

    http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=19647


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    Default Leave off the Jesus stuff

    The Republicans' coupling of religion and politics worked for them for a time...as when Karl Rove got those "defense of marriage" initiatives on the ballot in 13 key states in '04.

    But eventually it came back to bite them. I think the voters looked at GOP clowns like Larry Craig, who was spouting the "family values" line out of one side of his mouth, and at the same time tapping his feet under the toilet stall looking for gay sex.

    I believe if the GOP is going to come back strong, they need to de-couple the Jesus stuff from their platform and become the secular, martini-sipping, hard-headed pragmatic party it's been in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GW in Ohio View Post
    The Republicans' coupling of religion and politics worked for them for a time...as when Karl Rove got those "defense of marriage" initiatives on the ballot in 13 key states in '04.

    But eventually it came back to bite them. I think the voters looked at GOP clowns like Larry Craig, who was spouting the "family values" line out of one side of his mouth, and at the same time tapping his feet under the toilet stall looking for gay sex.

    I believe if the GOP is going to come back strong, they need to de-couple the Jesus stuff from their platform and become the secular, martini-sipping, hard-headed pragmatic party it's been in the past.
    or you know...practice what they preach instead of trying to label themselves to please everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GW in Ohio View Post
    The Republicans' coupling of religion and politics worked for them for a time...as when Karl Rove got those "defense of marriage" initiatives on the ballot in 13 key states in '04.

    But eventually it came back to bite them. I think the voters looked at GOP clowns like Larry Craig, who was spouting the "family values" line out of one side of his mouth, and at the same time tapping his feet under the toilet stall looking for gay sex.

    I believe if the GOP is going to come back strong, they need to de-couple the Jesus stuff from their platform and become the secular, martini-sipping, hard-headed pragmatic party it's been in the past.
    Yes, to liberals it is an outrage for people to openly express their faith in God - but it is fine if you are a Muslim and you openly express your love of Allah

    Dems tried to cover up their own sex issus - like the guy who replaced Mr Foley. Pelosi did not care there were tapes of the jerk threatening the women if she did do as she was told - all that matters is winning

    Republicans will come if IF they go back to Reagan conservatism. Dems will overplay their hand, try to grab to much power away from the people, and try to reshap America into their 60's utopia view


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Yes, to liberals it is an outrage for people to openly express their faith in God - but it is fine if you are a Muslim and you openly express your love of Allah

    Dems tried to cover up their own sex issus - like the guy who replaced Mr Foley. Pelosi did not care there were tapes of the jerk threatening the women if she did do as she was told - all that matters is winning

    Republicans will come if IF they go back to Reagan conservatism. Dems will overplay their hand, try to grab to much power away from the people, and try to reshap America into their 60's utopia view
    Reagan was a pragmatic conservative, which was the basis of his success. Although he was nominally religious, he didn't sit in the Oval Office trying to channel Jesus, as George Bush has done for the last 8 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GW in Ohio View Post
    Reagan was a pragmatic conservative, which was the basis of his success. Although he was nominally religious, he didn't sit in the Oval Office trying to channel Jesus, as George Bush has done for the last 8 years.
    Pres Reagan offered soultions to the liberal disater in the 1970's. Pres Reagan valued life and talked about God often. He took on libs who wanted remove all public reference of God - like libs want to do to today

    Maybe you were to young to remember the good ol days of unchecked liberalsim - or you are attempting to rewrite history


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Yes, to liberals it is an outrage for people to openly express their faith in God - but it is fine if you are a Muslim and you openly express your love of Allah

    Dems tried to cover up their own sex issus - like the guy who replaced Mr Foley. Pelosi did not care there were tapes of the jerk threatening the women if she did do as she was told - all that matters is winning

    Republicans will come if IF they go back to Reagan conservatism. Dems will overplay their hand, try to grab to much power away from the people, and try to reshap America into their 60's utopia view
    And red states...

    I for one am completely comfortable with people openly expressing their faith in God. As a bluegrass musician, gospel music is one of my favorite genres. I respect people who live their faith.

    But when it comes to politics, leave your faith at the door. If you don't govern with hard-headed pragmatism, instead of constantly wondering, "What would Jesus do?" you'll wind up the way the Republicans are today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GW in Ohio View Post
    And red states...

    I for one am completely comfortable with people openly expressing their faith in God. As a bluegrass musician, gospel music is one of my favorite genres. I respect people who live their faith.

    But when it comes to politics, leave your faith at the door. If you don't govern with hard-headed pragmatism, instead of constantly wondering, "What would Jesus do?" you'll wind up the way the Republicans are today.
    yet when liberalsim is preached from the pulpit (like at Obama's church) libs are silent

    Or when Jesse Jackson or Rev Al pass the collection plate around in black churchs - libe do not say a word

    It depend is God is used to promote liberalism or conservatism. It is called selective outrage, and libs are experts at it


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    the "what would Jesus do" line that you all spout about President Bush..

    He might of said it once somewhere sometime..but to insinuate he sat around day in and day out wondering that is just total bullshit..

    LIBERALS ARE LIARS
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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    yet when liberalsim is preached from the pulpit (like at Obama's church) libs are silent

    Or when Jesse Jackson or Rev Al pass the collection plate around in black churchs - libe do not say a word

    It depend is God is used to promote liberalism or conservatism. It is called selective outrage, and libs are experts at it
    I think the GOP took a disastrously wrong turn when they nominated George Bush in '99.

    At that point, they had all the momentum on their side. Newt Gingrich's conservative revolution that seized both Houses of Congress in '94 was based on fiscal conservatism and pragmatic policies in foreign affairs.

    If the Repubs had nominated someone competent in 2000, someone who didn't think it was a good idea to invade Iraq, someone who was a fiscal conservative and didn't think the taxpayers' money was his personal mad money, they'd still be in power today.

    George Bush spent the country to the brink of bankruptcy and he spent the GOP right out of power.

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