Mum's a pretty good at hiding their disappointment from their sons. They tend to fear rebellion.
Mum's a pretty good at hiding their disappointment from their sons. They tend to fear rebellion.
I expect it's possible to pretend Einstein was an atheist....so long as you ignore everything he's ever said as well as the definition of "atheist".......apparently it's sufficient for you that if he isn't a "Christian" he's an atheist.....like all the Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Sikhs......
...full immersion.....
...full immersion.....
LOL
I define atheism as - the belief that God (of any religion) does not exist.
You need only look at what Einstien said to know his beliefs, here are three examples
"I am a deeply religious nonbeliever. This is a somewhat new kind of religion."I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or anything that could be understood as anthropomorphic.What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of "humility." This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism.
As i said, the word 'God' was used by Einstien to talk about nature and natural laws, it is nothing to do with an religious god.It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
Carl Sagan put it well, saying "If by 'God' you mean a set of physical laws* that govern the universe, then their clearly is a God. This God is emotionally unsatisfying...it does not make much sense to pray to gravity"
*As Einstein did.
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If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
I want an answer that is the truth. I know that Darwinism was largely reviled by the Chruch when it was brought out because it showed just how uncaring and violent nature is,
Interesting that you would say that the beautiful things that god are made are more beautiful, but that the horrid things that are made are not more horrid.
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
You cleary have no clue if you are calling Einstien a Deist.
Lets go through this.
deism |ˈdēizəm|
noun
belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe.
Einstien Quotes
I think he's pretty clear in that.-I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.
-I am a deeply religious nonbeliever. This is a somewhat new kind of religion.
-This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism.
What you quoted him as saying was about Spinoza's God, and that believing in Spinoza's God somehow makes him a Deist, either you know not know anything about Spinoza's God or you are deliberately trying to mislead. Spinoza's God is on of the laws of the nature of existance, infact it plays perfectly back into what i quoted before
Only a fool would describe Einstein as religious, it is just unfortunate that he used the religious metaphor of god when talking about the Universe, and so those who want him to be religious will mis quote him, even though there are a dozen other quotes of him saying he is not religious and does not believe in super-nautral creatures or in anything that man can not explain through science."If by 'God' you mean a set of physical laws* that govern the universe, then their clearly is a God. This God is emotionally unsatisfying...it does not make much sense to pray to gravity"
*As Einstein did.
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
This is perfectly to the point. Beauty that is contrived, rather than chanced upon, is not beauty but a put-up job and a sham. Beauty that we are compelled to recognize by the machinations of another mind, is the very opposite of beauty: in fact it can only be the destruction of all meaning. But Noir has put it best, above: if it's really beautiful, this is a fact that God has no power to decide for or against.
Again, perfectly put. Those who cannot recognize something beautiful for its own sake, but only on account of some other being's say-so, have no real appreciation of beauty at all.
The trouble you've been having with the believers in this thread, Noir, is that they are too blind - aesthetically, and yes, even spiritually - to see the plain truth of life. You're real young, but you get it. Cheers to you.
you confuse "theism" and "religious"......being non-religious in itself does not make you an atheist.....Franklin and Lincoln both rejected "religion" but acknowledged "deity"....as did Einstein....
next I suspect you'll be telling me Spinoza was an atheist?.....you'll disappoint Shelley's God-intoxicated man if you do that.....Spinoza's God is on of the laws of the nature of existance, infact it plays perfectly back into what i quoted before
...full immersion.....