Homosexuality Now, Pedophilia Next

[musicman]

What exactly, other than the fact he says what you want to hear, makes Cameron's opinion more valid than Groth's? Groth seems to think Cameron is full of shit and Groth is an expert on child molestation.

... Dr. A. Nicholas Groth, has in fact explicitly stated that the molestation of young boys by adult men has nothing to do with homosexuality...

[musicman]

That's hilarious!

Not nearly as funny as your continued, "It doesn't matter that Cameron is a discredited charlatan and a proven liar, he's my expert and I'm sticking with him."

Refute his finding, then.

[Missileman]

Ah, but the thrust of your provided link is that man-on-boy sex is - somehow - NOT homosexuality. As we've discussed before, purporting to refute Dr. Cameron's finding by doctoring the meaning of the terms contained therein is tantamount to an admission that the finding is irrefutable.

On the subject of doctoring, perhaps you should consider the way Cameron doctored the results of the studies he cited which is the only way he came up with his bullshit statistics to begin with. The manner in which he dishonestly came up with his 20-40% figure was clearly detailed in my link.

[musicman]

On the subject of doctoring, perhaps you should consider the way Cameron doctored the results of the studies he cited which is the only way he came up with his bullshit statistics to begin with. The manner in which he dishonestly came up with his 20-40% figure was clearly detailed in my link.

Refute his finding.

[Missileman]

... Dr. A. Nicholas Groth, has in fact explicitly stated that the molestation of young boys by adult men has nothing to do with homosexuality...

And?

[Missileman]

Refute his finding.

Groth's conclusions are in direct contradiction to Cameron's, as are several other studies.

[musicman]

Quote:
Originally Posted by musicman View Post
... Dr. A. Nicholas Groth, has in fact explicitly stated that the molestation of young boys by adult men has nothing to do with homosexuality..

And?

And, I consider that a sufficient epitath for the left's "refutation" of Dr. Cameron's findings. I invite any reasonable person to read this post and draw his own conclusions.

[Missileman]

Quote:
Originally Posted by musicman View Post
... Dr. A. Nicholas Groth, has in fact explicitly stated that the molestation of young boys by adult men has nothing to do with homosexuality..




And, I consider that a sufficient epitath for the left's "refutation" of Dr. Cameron's findings. I invite any reasonable person to read this post and draw his own conclusions.

"Dr. Groth is wrong if we pretend that pedophilia means something else" refutes nothing.

"Dr. Groth is wrong if we pretend that a person's orientation is only determined by the gender of the child they molest" refutes nothing.

[glockmail]

You're using his representations of his references which amounts to the same thing as quoting him. As was pointed out in the link I provided, some of the people who actually conducted the studies he is using, accuse Cameron of dishonest representation. It was those accusations that led to Cameron being investigated for ethics violations.

Why depend on the interpretation of someone whose credibility is questionable instead of looking at the original (unaltered?) findings?

The sections that I am relying on for my argument are simple statements of fact. Cameron's "findings" are in later sections of his report. I am not going to the original sources as they must be purchased or located in a research library somewhere. If you can find free links then I will work with you on those.

Meanwhile I patiently await Grumpelstillskin's comments.

[glockmail]

*crickets chirping*

[TheStripey1]

Yeah I get it... this kind of information just slaps you liberal homo enablers in the face. Kind of hard to perpetuate your tepid line of diatribe against this kind of evidence.

you certainly haven't forgotten about mark foley have you?

oh... I bet you did...

[gabosaurus]

you certainly haven't forgotten about mark foley have you?

Not to mention all those Catholic priests.

[glockmail]

Not to mention all those Catholic priests.

More teachers are pedophiles than priests.

[manu1959]

you certainly haven't forgotten about mark foley have you?

oh... I bet you did...

not me did you forget about...barney frank, gary condit, neil goldschmidt, david giles....

[Pale Rider]

you certainly haven't forgotten about mark foley have you?

oh... I bet you did...

And this proves what?