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    Default Calamitous Events And American Lives Bush Is Responsible For

    Sept.11, 2001=3,030

    Casualties In Iraq=4,474

    Wounded In Iraq=33,118

    Casualties In Afghanistan=1,656

    Wounded In Afghanistan=13,011

    Now, you all want to say that Obama is responsible for the economy because he is in office, well turn about is fair play...............which has a greater impact on families? On children who've lost parents?

    Other than OBL being killed please cite with evidence where these Americans died defending democracy, please don't say Sadaam either, only a fucking fool still believes that Sadaam had a damn thing to do with 9/11.

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    You failed to list how many lives were lost since zero took office. You know, those wars he said he was going to end and pull out of immediately after taking office. Are you trolling again? You are the ultra conservative in one thread and a flaming uberliberal in another. Make up your mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    You failed to list how many lives were lost since zero took office. You know, those wars he said he was going to end and pull out of immediately after taking office. Are you trolling again? You are the ultra conservative in one thread and a flaming uberliberal in another. Make up your mind.
    Iraq=143

    Afghanistan=970

    Neither war was initiated by Obama so do we want to play the game of 'what happens on your watch is your fault" or do we want to be intelligent and say "9/11, not Bush's fault since they were in country long before he took office" and that Obama inherited a shit economy thanks to the cowboy and two wars thanks to the cowboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    You failed to list how many lives were lost since zero took office. You know, those wars he said he was going to end and pull out of immediately after taking office. Are you trolling again? You are the ultra conservative in one thread and a flaming uberliberal in another. Make up your mind.
    Didn't candidate Obama "promise" to get the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan?

    Didn't candidate Obama promise to close GITMO?

    Amazing how the Obama drones never want to talk about that and always want to pass the buck to someone else for Bammy's failures

    Of course if I voted for Obama the last thing I would want to talk about is Obama's record and mounting failures


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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Iraq=143

    Afghanistan=970

    Neither war was initiated by Obama so do we want to play the game of 'what happens on your watch is your fault" or do we want to be intelligent and say "9/11, not Bush's fault since they were in country long before he took office" and that Obama inherited a shit economy thanks to the cowboy and two wars thanks to the cowboy.
    Zero inherited a shitty economy and made it ten times worse. That's an accomplishment. I'm sure you'll be voting for him again so he can continue the downward spiral.

    So you have bashed Bush and patted zero on the back. I guess you will now declare yourself the greatest debater of all time like you always do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    Zero inherited a shitty economy and made it ten times worse. That's an accomplishment. I'm sure you'll be voting for him again so he can continue the downward spiral.

    So you have bashed Bush and patted zero on the back. I guess you will now declare yourself the greatest debater of all time like you always do.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Sept.11, 2001=3,030

    Casualties In Iraq=4,474

    Wounded In Iraq=33,118

    Casualties In Afghanistan=1,656

    Wounded In Afghanistan=13,011

    Now, you all want to say that Obama is responsible for the economy because he is in office, well turn about is fair play...............which has a greater impact on families? On children who've lost parents?

    Other than OBL being killed please cite with evidence where these Americans died defending democracy,
    please don't say Sadaam either, only a fucking fool still believes that Sadaam had a damn thing to do with 9/11.
    Fool, killing Saadam OBVIOUSLY brought democracy to Iraq. Or did you mean democracy to Americans? Because I got news for you , OBL didn't steal our democracy either.

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    How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    Zero inherited a shitty economy and made it ten times worse. That's an accomplishment. I'm sure you'll be voting for him again so he can continue the downward spiral.

    So you have bashed Bush and patted zero on the back. I guess you will now declare yourself the greatest debater of all time like you always do.
    No need to delare, its already known.

    I'm sure the Laffer would've made the economy ten times better or, better yet...........John McCain................lol.

    Will never know though, Obama whipped McCain's ass and there ain't a Republican in the field who can beat him this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Fool, killing Saadam OBVIOUSLY brought democracy to Iraq. Or did you mean democracy to Americans? Because I got news for you , OBL didn't steal our democracy either.
    There is only paper thin democracy in Iraq as long as American troops remain..............as soon as we leave................shithole................again .

    Do you want us to remain forever?

    We had no reason being there in the first place, Bush lied........innocent soldiers died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    There is only paper thin democracy in Iraq as long as American troops remain..............as soon as we leave................shithole................again .

    Do you want us to remain forever?

    We had no reason being there in the first place, Bush lied........innocent soldiers died.
    Your record must be scratched ... it's seems to be stuck...repeating yourself over and over...don't you have any new talking points?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Your record must be scratched ... it's seems to be stuck...repeating yourself over and over...don't you have any new talking points?
    When it ain't broke, don't fix it. Those points are bulletproof.

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    The only thing he has to say is he hates Bush. Same old song and dance he had when he was here last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    The only thing he has to say is he hates Bush. Same old song and dance he had when he was here last time.
    Just like all you can say is you hate Obama, difference is i'm bombarding you with facts and you can't find the foxhole fast enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    There is only paper thin democracy in Iraq as long as American troops remain..............as soon as we leave................shithole................again .

    Do you want us to remain forever?

    We had no reason being there in the first place, Bush lied........innocent soldiers died.
    First of all it has been our nation's stated intention to fight for democracy around the world since the Monroe Doctrine. It isn't as if Bush just woke up one morning and wrote new policy in that area.

    Second of all, Bush didn't lie. unless you are foolish enough to believe that the CIA came to him and said "nope even though Saadam just 10 years ago killed over one hundred thousand of his own people with WMD he doesn't have any now" and Bush said "Well, fuck it, I'm going to lie to the USA about why I'm invading Iraq, even though I don't even have to have a reason because I am the President and by virtue of the War Powers Act I can unilaterally invade for any or NO reason at all, yeah that sounds good shhhhhhhh don't tell anyone"

    Thirdly, blah blah blah about your innocent soldiers died comment. Sad as it is that some of MY brothers and sisters have died in Iraq and the Stan, none died who didn't know it was a possibility when they joined the military. So while I grieve for them, I don't feel sorry for them. It is a job that they were well aware of the dangers of when they joined.


    Do I want us to remain there forever? Sure , if it's at a profit to the US. I say bring home ALL US soldiers abroad unless the host company wants to hire them soldier of fortune style.


    By the by , how do you feel about our recent action in Libya?

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