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    Yikes, it's one thing to have police keeping things civil, and I can even see some clashes with them. But when the military starts killing their own citizens, there is a problem. Sounds like things are seriously out of control at the Square. Be careful if you go there!

    I honestly haven't read or watched enough on this situation yet, but is the military effectively running the country right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Yikes, it's one thing to have police keeping things civil, and I can even see some clashes with them. But when the military starts killing their own citizens, there is a problem. Sounds like things are seriously out of control at the Square. Be careful if you go there!

    I honestly haven't read or watched enough on this situation yet, but is the military effectively running the country right now?
    The military has been in control since Mubarak was ousted. The issue now, and I think Abso already touched on it, is that the Military Supreme Council has yet to hand over control to civilians and the people have have run out of patience. This was a concern we all shared when the military took "interim" control. Would they relinquish it? The answer to this question will be made clear over the next few days/weeks. The military has since stated that they will begin the transition. Let's hope for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderknuckles View Post
    The military has been in control since Mubarak was ousted. The issue now, and I think Abso already touched on it, is that the Military Supreme Council has yet to hand over control to civilians and the people have have run out of patience. This was a concern we all shared when the military took "interim" control. Would they relinquish it? The answer to this question will be made clear over the next few days/weeks. The military has since stated that they will begin the transition. Let's hope for the best.
    I can understand the military intervention a bit in helping run the country until new leaders can be installed, but I wouldn't support them shooting citizens. I think they would be best with some sort of democracy... Anyone know the latest with the Muslim Brotherhood? If they're trying to take over, THAT'S where the military should intervene!
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    I hope that Abso's cousin's wife is faithful to him so that Abso doesn't have to participate in an honor killing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    I hope that Abso's cousin's wife is faithful to him so that Abso doesn't have to participate in an honor killing.
    Was that really necessary?
    You know it will lead to nothing but a pissing match so why bother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderknuckles View Post
    Was that really necessary?
    You know it will lead to nothing but a pissing match so why bother?





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    Quote Originally Posted by abso View Post
    ... they have some demands related to the martyrs fund, they want to control it...

    by the way, for now the people in the square have increased their demands, they now demand the resignation of the military supreme council and that they relinquish control of the country.
    Control is a good thing. You should be demanding more economic freedom and private property rights if you want to improve the lot of your countrymen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Yikes, it's one thing to have police keeping things civil, and I can even see some clashes with them. But when the military starts killing their own citizens, there is a problem. Sounds like things are seriously out of control at the Square. Be careful if you go there!

    I honestly haven't read or watched enough on this situation yet, but is the military effectively running the country right now?
    yes, the one who controls the country now is Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, He is the commander-in-chief of the Egyptian Armed Forces and the Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, the de facto head of state of Egypt.


    the army denies the charges of killing people, always saying that the army never fired a bullet at the egyptian people, while that maybe correct, but for the army to allow the police to act with such cruelty, that is a problem as you say, the army is in charge now, Tantawi can order the police and control it as he see fit, so for him to just say that the army didnt fire, that doesn't mean that the police didn't fire too, he must control the interior ministry, their cruelty will never be tolerated by the people again, if the situation evolves any further than it already has, maybe it will be the dawn of civil war in egypt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderknuckles View Post
    Was that really necessary?
    You know it will lead to nothing but a pissing match so why bother?
    nevermind, it will not lead to anything, i have learned to ignore fools who make jokes in topics about people getting killed.
    People show you and tell you who they are and you need to be listening and watching, not deciding that you know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I can understand the military intervention a bit in helping run the country until new leaders can be installed, but I wouldn't support them shooting citizens. I think they would be best with some sort of democracy... Anyone know the latest with the Muslim Brotherhood? If they're trying to take over, THAT'S where the military should intervene!
    the MB is not going to take over, they refused to let any member run for presidency, but they will control about 30-40% of the parliment.

    for me, i don't fear the MB as much as i fear other islamic movements, MB aren't that strict compared to other movements.

    for now MB have created a new party called Freedom and Justice, its not a radical party, its a very moderate one.
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    Hey Abso, how'd elections go? What's the feeling like among Egyptians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    Hey Abso, how'd elections go? What's the feeling like among Egyptians?
    First Stage of the Elections:
    Muslim Brotherhood about 42%
    Other Muslim Parties about 20%
    Liberals about 30%
    Independent about 8%

    the numbers aren't very accurate, i will get the accurate numbers when the rest of the elections finishes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abso View Post
    First Stage of the Elections:
    Muslim Brotherhood about 42%
    Other Muslim Parties about 20%
    Liberals about 30%
    Independent about 8%

    the numbers aren't very accurate, i will get the accurate numbers when the rest of the elections finishes.
    Are you confident in the legitimacy? You think they can get control away from the military?

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    The muslim brotherhood, a terrorist organization affiliated with al quaeda and hama gets 40% of the election. Says a lot. Hard core sharia law will follow. Abso you might want to consider relocating to Europe. Your version of islam and MS's version are too different things. A shite version of iran is in Egypt's future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    The muslim brotherhood, a terrorist organization affiliated with al quaeda and hama gets 40% of the election. Says a lot. Hard core sharia law will follow. Abso you might want to consider relocating to Europe. Your version of islam and MS's version are too different things. A shite version of iran is in Egypt's future.
    Correction: a sunni version of iran is in Egypt's future.
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