I take my stand, you?

[Robert A Whit]

I trust Bibi Netanyahu. He points out that Arabs (most of which are Muslim, I presume) live better in Israel than in other countries in the region. No one can reasonably say Netanyahu appeases Muslims. Bibi doesn't show the Klan-like hatred for Muslims I see here in the US. If you want an example of that kind of thing in the US:

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...nclick_check=1

As a contrast, here is where Netanyahu stands:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/pm-cond...ace-in-israel/

Name any Muslim who will admit being anti American. Notice I did not say anti USA for given their population growth (See book by Mark Steyn, America Alone for some facts), in the future, the number of Muslims in the USA will make them the majority. Globally they are growing so fast that in some countries, formerly Christian, they now have Muslim majorities.

I asked one Muslim (actually a former Musllim, who is currently saying he is a Catholic) Sia from Iran to tell me honestly if the Muslim faith is violent. Not 1200 or 1500 years back, but right now. Sia explained to me that they are violent and he explained why. He said since he left Iran and became an American citizen, it was not compatable for him to remain a Muslim and live here given he despises violence.

Now, Sia got a college education in Iran and moved eventually to the USA fearing he would die unless he got proper care for his heart condition. He legally went to Germany hoping for said care. Sadly the Germans told him he had to go to the USA for that sort of heart care.

So, he came here on a visitors visa and became illegal and somehow managed to get amnesty. I think it was that vaunted Reagan Amnesty that democrats would love to repeat.

See how it worked for us the last time? They want to repeat that mistake.

Now, I happen to enjoy the company of Sia when he comes by. I think since Sia worked in the loan business and sold property for commission, and had took the risk of buying high priced homes just in time for them to fall in price, he probably is on some government aid program of some sort. I wish he came by to chat.

When Sia who hated the America flag so much he burned it in Iran, to tell me Muslims are violent, took guts. Were he still a Muslim, I suppose he would be killed if somebody knew what he said.

[tailfins]

Name any Muslim who will admit being anti American. Notice I did not say anti USA for given their population growth (See book by Mark Steyn, America Alone for some facts), in the future, the number of Muslims in the USA will make them the majority. Globally they are growing so fast that in some countries, formerly Christian, they now have Muslim majorities.

I asked one Muslim (actually a former Musllim, who is currently saying he is a Catholic) Sia from Iran to tell me honestly if the Muslim faith is violent. Not 1200 or 1500 years back, but right now. Sia explained to me that they are violent and he explained why. He said since he left Iran and became an American citizen, it was not compatable for him to remain a Muslim and live here given he despises violence.

Now, Sia got a college education in Iran and moved eventually to the USA fearing he would die unless he got proper care for his heart condition. He legally went to Germany hoping for said care. Sadly the Germans told him he had to go to the USA for that sort of heart care.

So, he came here on a visitors visa and became illegal and somehow managed to get amnesty. I think it was that vaunted Reagan Amnesty that democrats would love to repeat.

See how it worked for us the last time? They want to repeat that mistake.

Now, I happen to enjoy the company of Sia when he comes by. I think since Sia worked in the loan business and sold property for commission, and had took the risk of buying high priced homes just in time for them to fall in price, he probably is on some government aid program of some sort. I wish he came by to chat.

When Sia who hated the America flag so much he burned it in Iran, to tell me Muslims are violent, took guts. Were he still a Muslim, I suppose he would be killed if somebody knew what he said.

If all the people that get profiled as terrorists happen to be Muslim, I don't have a problem with that. However, it is an American principle to have freedom of religion. If being a Muslim PLUS some other activity points to someone being an enemy of our nation, I'm all for that. Taking action against someone SOLELY for their religion doesn't sit well with me.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

If all the people that get profiled as terrorists happen to be Muslim, I don't have a problem with that. However, it is an American principle to have freedom of religion. If being a Muslim PLUS some other activity points to someone being an enemy of our nation, I'm all for that. Taking action against someone SOLELY for their religion doesn't sit well with me.

Now you reveal the bug you apparently had up your arse. ALL muslims would do you harm when their leaders call for that to be done. If not they'd be declared apostate and murdered themselves. If you are going to defend a thing its best you actually learn about it first, dont ya think? Islam hates all that is not Islam , a fact which Im sure you in your blindness will quickly deny. Islam teaches the detruction of all that is not of Islam . A fact, not fiction, false supposition but a fact. You dont like my hardline stand against Islam , tough titty baby..-Tyr

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

My feelings on Islam and its plan to destroy USA.

Of what good is peace if it is bought at the cost of sacrificing all that we hold dear? There is a great failure in our country today and that is the failure to understand total submission. What total submission is and how it could lead to our demise. The greatest example of total submission today is Islam. Yes, Islam is the essence of total submission and it demands that not only from its followers but also from all that it confronts.
Surely we that place such great value on justice and freedom can see that there can be absolutely no peace with Islam, with those so dedicated to destroying freedom and justice as we know it. Destroying it as our founders intended and created a governing magnificent document to guide.

Should we fail to unite and arrive at that conclusion, create a proper plan of action and pursue it with determination we shall meet our destruction. For abandoning our integrity, honor and justice we shall pay a heavy price. One that few will dare admit because such tragedy is always the fate of others and we console ourselves with that old line of comforting thinking. Should we fail to act such tragedy may possibly be a just fate for a peoples that have betrayed the sacrifice of millions that gave us the most precious of blessings: Independence, Freedom, Rule of law and Constitution.! Such a combination that was not only unique in the world but has since failed to be duplicated !

Should we abandone common sense, Rule of Law to follow the easier path of appeasement our choice made to avoid confronting our fears and our enemy shall almost certainly bring destruction for having renounced the gift that has been dearly bought with the blood, tears and treasure of countless Americans that have lived and died fighting the true fight. The good fight of justice over injustice , of good over evil and the happiness of having created and passed on a blessing beyond compare to future generations..

Rather than yield to complacency, indifference and shallow lusts of the times it may be wise to learn again how to fall to bended knee and asked for strength of mind , pureness of heart and justice defended by righteous blade and keen intellect! If you have no “blade” sell your costly toys to buy the best money can buy. For what good be such if in maintaining one looses their head? Ask not mercy and gifts from enemies with no honor but instead stand firm, defend your life, your family and your country! For life often demands great sacrifice, think not and life will take that and more. The more being that which few can or will dare imagine but life cares not about our fears and failures. It is we that should care more about life!

Care enough to stand against those that would murder our parents, enslave our children and exstinguish our freedom and justice forever. Islam, shall not subjugate this great nation. Shall not if we face it without fear and with determination birthed from defending that which is good and right about our nation. This nation created to be the guiding light to the world. A Christian nation blessed by God and occupied by those brave enough to spill blood , blood of others as well as their own!--Tyr

Second draft.. decided not to add in the long post previously cut before my posting the first addressing -lack of patriotism from the Dem party and its dire effects upon this nation and our military . Perhaps worthy of another thread at a later time. More fodder for my critics!!!
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Now where in my original post that started this thread did I indicate rounding up muslims or taking any illegal actions against them?--Tyr

[fj1200]

You don't like those on the Right being united in a common cause ? Is that what's behind your thinking here ?

I agree with Tyr; there's no point in trying to consider those on the Left, because they're wedded to a script, a perception of reality predefined for them. They know what they want to see and work towards, so they follow that path. It doesn't matter to them whether or not reality defies them, because their propaganda is far more important to them.

You might take some care to actually read what I wrote. I already stipulated that you could toss out the "left" as trying to convert it's the rest that will take issue.

[Dilloduck]

The Constitution of the United States PROTECTS peoples right to worship as they please.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The Constitution of the United States PROTECTS peoples right to worship as they please.

Islam views our Constitution as a wortless piece of paper , fit only to be destroyed alonged with those that seek to preserve it. Islam scoffs at the proposition that people should have such religious freedoms! They'd destroy that and you without even so much as a blinking of their insane eyes. Sure, just like it protected our populace from the likes of obama. Its only as strong as the government that has the task of using it as our nation's guide and when that government is corupted it is weak unless patriots step forth to demand that it be renewed as the primary block in this nation's foundation ! Obama attacks it instead of defending it , as also do the Islamists. You prefer to defend the Islamists while youi attempt cover by lauding our Constitution. Our Constitution does not give protection to those seeking it's and our nation's destruction. -Tyr

[tailfins]

Islam views our Constitution as a wortless piece of paper , fit only to be destroyed alonged with those that seek to preserve it. Islam scoffs at the proposition that people should have such religious freedoms! They'd destroy that and you without even so much as a blinking of their insane eyes. Sure, just like it protected our populace from the likes of obama. Its only as strong as the government that has the task of using it as our nation's guide and when that government is corupted it is weak unless patriots step forth to demand that it be renewed as the primary block in this nation's foundation ! Obama attacks it instead of defending it , as also do the Islamists. You prefer to defend the Islamists while youi attempt cover by lauding our Constitution. Our Constitution does not give protection to those seeking it's and our nation's destruction. -Tyr

My grandpa used to refer to it as the nigger's religion.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

My grandpa used to refer to it as the nigger's religion.

Are you now bragging about having a racist grandfather? Islam has nothing to do with blacks except that it seeks to either convert or kill them too!

[Abbey Marie]

The Constitution of the United States PROTECTS peoples right to worship as they please.

And we know the USSC never interprets the Constitution based on politics, right?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Weird---you're like Tyr's very own left wing.

I am so far right that I don't have a left wing, and Drummonds is his own man as his well thought out posts so clearly reveal. Of course I'd take him on my team anytime because the man prefers truth over lies and has the courage to always follow that path IMHO. His posts here are inferior to none and often his knowledge greater on our politics than are some Americans that post here. -Tyr

[Robert A Whit]

If all the people that get profiled as terrorists happen to be Muslim, I don't have a problem with that. However, it is an American principle to have freedom of religion. If being a Muslim PLUS some other activity points to someone being an enemy of our nation, I'm all for that. Taking action against someone SOLELY for their religion doesn't sit well with me.

When Sia (from Iran) and I met, he was still a Muslim. I did not wish him ill.

Maybe I am wrong, but if so, Sia helped me be wrong, but according to what he told me, the duty of a Muslim is to eliminate anybody not a Muslim. This is one of his reasons for saying the religion is violent. If a person is a Muslim but teaches non violence, good for them since they violate the rules of their own religion.

Another way to see this is the non religion part of it. Killing humans at peace ought to never be excused.

[aboutime]

I am so far right that I don't have a left wing, and Drummonds is his own man as his well thought out posts so clearly reveal. Of course I'd take him on my team anytime because the man prefers truth over lies and has the courage to always follow that path IMHO. His posts here are inferior to none and often his knowledge greater on our politics than are some Americans that post here. -Tyr

Anyone happen to remember last week, when someone from the Left, Liberal side attempted to convince America that NASCAR FANS were more attractive to Obama????

Also. Does anyone remember how quickly the Liberal-Dems who made that claim...dropped it like a Hot Potato when someone pointed out....How NASCAR FANS only appear to be on the LEFT....Because....ALL NASCAR races happen to be ENDLESS LAPS WHERE FAST CARS.....MAKE ENDLESS "LEFT" TURNS???

[tailfins]

Are you now bragging about having a racist grandfather? Islam has nothing to do with blacks except that it seeks to either convert or kill them too!

Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam: You make comments that are shown to be untrue by a simple internet search. I know what raw racism looks like (if it quacks like a duck). Your posts honk loud and clear. It's easy and lazy to define an enemy by race or religion. Here is another:

If you see someone with Bey or hyphenated with Bey, they are "Moorish", a type of black Muslim.
http://www.themoorishsciencetempleofamerica.org/

For Example: Shelby Lee Patterson-Bey
http://www.bustedmugshots.com/missou...n-bey/62933981

[Dilloduck]

And we know the USSC never interprets the Constitution based on politics, right?

So would you support a war against Islam ? How about a law that banned it's practice ?