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    Default Michael Moore Challenges Fred Thompson To Debate

    <tt><tt><tt> Senator Fred Thompson
    American Enterprise Institute
    110 Seventeenth Street, N.W.
    Washington, DC 20036

    Dear Senator Thompson,

    Given that it has been publicly reported in The Weekly Standard, a leading neo-conservative publication, that you support Fidel Castro and the Cuban regime by being a purveyor of fine Cuban exports despite the trade embargo, I was surprised to see your recent op ed in a more traditional conservative outlet, The National Review, regarding my trip to Cuba (I suspect you choose The National Review in an effort to pander to an outlet that had criticized you for your opposition to medical malpractice legislation).

    In your May 2, 2007 National Review article, "Paradise Island," you specifically raised concerns about whether my trip to Cuba with 9/11 heroes, who have suffered serious health problems as a result of their exposure to toxic substances at Ground Zero that have gone untreated was somehow going to support Castro ad the Cuban government:

    "It always leaves me shaking my head when I read about some big-time actor or director going to Cuba and gushing all over Castro." [http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...kOTdjN2Q4ZmE=]

    Putting aside the fact that you, like the Bush Administration, seem far more concerned about the trip to Cuba than the health care of these 9/11 heroes, I was struck by the fact that your concerns (including comments about CastroÕs reported financial worth) apparently do not extend to your own conduct, as reported in The Weekly Standard's April 23, 2007 story, "From the Courthouse to the White House Fred Thompson auditions for the leading role" (emphasis added):

    "Thompson's work space looks just like what the home office of a successful politician or CEO should look like -- though a little messier: a large desk, dark wood, leather furniture, lots of books and magazines and newspapers, a flat-screen TV, and box upon box of cigars -- Montecristos from Havana." [http://weeklystandard.com/Utilities/...&R=1136E33842]

    In light of your comments regarding Cuba and Castro, do you think the "box upon box of cigars -- Montecristos from Havana" that you have in your office have contributed to CastroÕs reported wealth?

    While I will leave it up to the conservatives to debate your hypocrisy and the Treasury Department to determine whether the "box upon box of cigars" violates the trade embargo, I hereby challenge you to a health care debate.

    Survey after survey has indicated that health care is one of the top issues to the American voters. Today, more than 46 million people lack health are coverage, including 9 million children. We pay significantly more than any other country in the world -- and get less back. Americans life expectancy is lower than other Ground Zero 9/11 workers live in a society where the Bush Administration has shown more concern about their travel than about their health.

    Our debate would provide you an opportunity to appeal to the right wing of the Republican Party by continuing to attack me; it would give me a chance to discuss health care and tell you exactly what happened in Cuba, given your apparent inters; and it would provide the American people an opportunity to see just how serious Hollywood can be, with a purported conservative and an avowed progressive Hollywood personality on stage.

    Over the course of the debate, we could specifically address the following issues:

    (1) Your work as a lobbyist in light of the fact that the health care and insurance industries have maintained the current health care system through their effective control of the political establishment.

    (2) The fact that you raised hundred of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from the health care and insurance industries.

    (3) Discuss the fact, highlighted in yet another conservative outlet The New York Sun, that you inexplicably wanted to cut funding for AIDS research. [http://www.nysunpolitics.com/blog/20...ositions.html]

    (4) Your relationship with the Frist family and by extension HCA, one of the nation's largest for-profit hospital chains. It has been reported that former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (who was renowned for his over-the-television-screen Schiavo diagnosis) is serving as one of your confidantes on your potential presidential campaign. The Frist family has historically controlled HCA, which paid a record $1.7 billion in civil and criminal fines, including a $631 million penalty for Medicaid fraud -- in other words, ripping off the taxpayers.

    (5) Discussing whether Arthur Branch, as the District Attorney of Manhattan, supports a woman's right to choose, gun safety reforms, gay marriage, the trans fat ban and anti-smoking laws (which would impact Cuban cigars, including your Montecristos).

    Like American Idol, we could even have the country vote to determine which one of us wins the debate. Though in the spirit of full disclosure, I feel obligated to forewarn you that I was the winner of the 1971-72 Detroit Free Press Debate Award for the state of Michigan.

    The winner of our health care debate could even light a Victory cigar with one of your Montecristos (though we may want to consider shopping them to the safe house where I have put a master copy of SiCKO in the event that the Bush Administration tries to seize the film).

    Sincerely,


    Michael Moore

    http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6.htm
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    Fred Thompson's reply:


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    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    That was outstanding! A polite way to tell Moore to go ^%$# his fat self!
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=611

    I couldn't see the reply in Jim's original post , but I saw it at the link above.

    I have to hand it to Fred Thompson, he is very good at presenting himself on television and very at ease in front of the camera.

    He certainly handles himself much better than Bush does. Whether you like Bush or not, you have to admit that he just doesn't come across very well on TV. I'd say "wooden", in fact.

    This is the second video of Fred Thompson I've seen. I don't know if Fred Thompson has a chance to win the White House but everything I've seen so far leads me to believe that he knows how to handle himself.
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    Micheal Moore is a POS and should be charged with treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    That was outstanding! A polite way to tell Moore to go ^%$# his fat self!
    Michael Moore couldn't last 5 minutes with Thompson. He's nowhere near Thompson's league.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=611

    I couldn't see the reply in Jim's original post , but I saw it at the link above.

    I have to hand it to Fred Thompson, he is very good at presenting himself on television and very at ease in front of the camera.

    He certainly handles himself much better than Bush does. Whether you like Bush or not, you have to admit that he just doesn't come across very well on TV. I'd say "wooden", in fact.

    This is the second video of Fred Thompson I've seen. I don't know if Fred Thompson has a chance to win the White House but everything I've seen so far leads me to believe that he knows how to handle himself.

    That was just simply OUTSTANDING!

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    We need more Fred Thompsons...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    We need more Fred Thompsons...

    Just ONE tossing his hat in the ring will suffice for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Michael Moore couldn't last 5 minutes with Thompson. He's nowhere near Thompson's league.
    Michael Moore couldn't last more then 5 minutes with anyone, all's he does is babble on and produce his propaganda against our Government.

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    Hell if I could contact him, I would challenge him to a debate, anywhere anytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Just ONE tossing his hat in the ring will suffice for now.
    For "now." But the republican party needs more Freds, period. I think out party has become to pussyfooted when responding to the vicious attackes by the looberals. Bush rarely responds outright and when he does, it is like reading a script. Clinton, for all his man whore ways, was able to directly diffuse a "dissenter" by using common sense language that made the accuser look stupid and vengeful. Like Fred did. Absolutely brilliant response. The fact he made it a video brings it to a higher level in terms of brilliance.

    IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    Hell if I could contact him, I would challenge him to a debate, anywhere anytime.
    You'd have to tie one half of your brain behind your back.....

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    If you support Fred Thompson theres a website with a petition to urge him to run for President www.fred08.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    For "now." But the republican party needs more Freds, period. I think out party has become to pussyfooted when responding to the vicious attackes by the looberals. Bush rarely responds outright and when he does, it is like reading a script. Clinton, for all his man whore ways, was able to directly diffuse a "dissenter" by using common sense language that made the accuser look stupid and vengeful. Like Fred did. Absolutely brilliant response. The fact he made it a video brings it to a higher level in terms of brilliance.

    IMHO
    I will DEFINITELY agree the GOP has become the "no balls" party.
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