2016 will you vote 4 a real conservative...

[mundame]

But both of you are just saying that we WILL just have more tepid republican presidents, but you don't admit to the results of that eventuality for us or our children.

you both seem to blithely speculate on the likely tepid choices as if it's going to make a positive difference.

Not me, I didn't vote in either of the last two elections, and that was a big change in my life.

I think it's interesting to watch who comes to the fore, but at this point I have little hope that they'll choose any candidates except sex perverts like Cain or women-controllers like Santorum. It's hopeless; I give up. I've pretty much given up on democracy now that the franchise has been given to the homeless, the retarded, street people, crazies, felons, all the people whose idea of democracy is to rob the rich.

I've chosen not voting rather than voting for some little short guy nobody can remember his name who says he's a Libertarian and who won't get enough votes to bother to count. I would join a sweep of the public to throw out the loser Republicans and change the second party to Libertarian, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm just trying to stay out of it this next time. Not worry about who is running until they get it settled amongst themselves, then decide whether I can vote for either useless party and either do or don't.

[Robert A Whit]

How do you know you won't be around for another 26 years to see 100? The youngest member or even lurker of this forum might not see 2014 alive.

That's right.

[Robert A Whit]

As a doctor, Ron Paul is far more grumpy than my doctors are. As a politician, tell me what he has ever managed in government?

Most people won't vote for a person that has no management experience unless they happen to be a democrat.

As to Paul Ryan, ditto. I like both of them. But liking them and calling them president is a very different matter.

I like experience. Look at the low ratings of the rest and see how the rest of us feel.

Ideology over experience just won't work.

Look, say you got rich and decided to hire a cook.

Would you hire an actual cook or somebody that carried around boxes of food to put into a store?

[bingster]

What was "extreme right wing" about the primary?

Every question and every point was to find the most extreme answer possible. "How many of you would accept a deal of $10 of cuts vs. $1 of revenue?"-all voted no.

Any candidate who showed the least amount of moderation lost e.g. Perry believed in the Dream Act.

The death penalty got a standing ovation.

The audiences of each debate sounded like blood thirsty mobs.

[bingster]

Every question and every point was to find the most extreme answer possible. "How many of you would accept a deal of $10 of cuts vs. $1 of revenue?"-all voted no.

Any candidate who showed the least amount of moderation lost e.g. Perry believed in the Dream Act.

The death penalty got a standing ovation.

The audiences of each debate sounded like blood thirsty mobs.

Plus, the proof of extreme was in the pudding. Romney ran away from every moderate position he's ever had. He used to be unquestionably moderate. He even once called himself "To the left of Ted Kennedy on gay rights"

[aboutime]

Plus, the proof of extreme was in the pudding. Romney ran away from every moderate position he's ever had. He used to be unquestionably moderate. He even once called himself "To the left of Ted Kennedy on gay rights"

Da Bingster peeweeliberal.jpg has spoken.

[Abbey Marie]

Da Bingster peeweeliberal.jpg has spoken.

AT, unless I missed it, I haven't seen anywhere that bingster has been insulting to you or anyone. I don't want to otherwise imply that it's only you- can we all try to stick to discussing content?

[red states rule]

Voting for a Libertarian is not voting for Obama; it's voting for a Libertarian.

Not voting is not the same as voting for Obama; it's just not voting.

I don't know where people get the strange idea that doing the opposite of something is the same as doing that something.

We need clearer thinking, guys. If you don't do X, you haven't done X.

Considering Obama got 4 million fewer votes in 2012 then he did in 2008; and considering over 5 million "conservatives" stayed home and di not vote - I would say those PO'd conservatives handed the election to Obama on a silver platter. Of course there were many bigots who simply did not vote for Mitt because - gasp - he is a Mormon. Thanks a lot folks

[taft2012]

Conservative Don't stick, MOST vote for the republican RINO Neo-Con in the end.

If by "in the end" you mean after the primaries are completed and a party nominee is selected, then yes, we do.

That seems to be the only time conservatives can work as a team. If we can learn to act as a team *BEFORE* the primaries, like the GOP establishment does, there's a good chance we can get what we want.

But that's not going to happen if we preach separation from the RINO 30% of the party.

Independent mindedness is going to briefly take a backseat to teamwork if the conservative coalition wants a candidate nominated.

the tea party has been co-opted and But it got a few people in office, flawed as they may have been, it's not impossible for conservatives to get office, If they push.

Nobody said it was "impossible" for conservatives to get into office.

I will say, however, it is extremely unlikely we will ever have a national presidential candidate if we keep putting up 4 or 5 conservative candidates to split the vote against one establishment RINO.

-BTW: if you keep checking my spelling , you'll keep busy.

I generally overlook spelling, but this was more than just spelling. Wrong word entirely. "martial" vs. "marshall"
That was a friendly service I was offering. That's one boo-boo you don't wanna repeat.

[tailfins]

I generally overlook spelling, but this was more than just spelling. Wrong word entirely. "martial" vs. "marshall"
That was a friendly service I was offering. That's one boo-boo you don't wanna repeat.

You mean you haven't heard of the Martial Plan after WWII to let Martians mediate disputes to prevent further wars? Part of the Martial Plan was to let the Martians institute Marshall Law.

[taft2012]

You mean you haven't heard of the Martial Plan after WWII to let Martians mediate disputes to prevent further wars? Part of the Martial Plan was to let the Martians institute Marshall Law.

Heh, no. I was actually thinking of Martial Dillon from Gunsmoke.

[cadet]

As a doctor, Ron Paul is far more grumpy than my doctors are. As a politician, tell me what he has ever managed in government?

Most people won't vote for a person that has no management experience unless they happen to be a democrat.

As to Paul Ryan, ditto. I like both of them. But liking them and calling them president is a very different matter.

I like experience. Look at the low ratings of the rest and see how the rest of us feel.

Ideology over experience just won't work.

Look, say you got rich and decided to hire a cook.

Would you hire an actual cook or somebody that carried around boxes of food to put into a store?

Screw experience. We need a guy with morals and a level head. A guy who realizes that you have to work hard to get anywhere.
Instead of a business degree, or law, or etc. We need an engineer, a doctor, a regular guy that get's America!

[revelarts]

Look i'm happy if i get the proper -there- correct in my post.
their, there or they're.
You could start 20 different threads with my busted sentences and creative spellings.

[aboutime]

Heh, no. I was actually thinking of Martial Dillon from Gunsmoke.

Golly, Gee Marshall Dillon....Nobody remembers me...Chester? Chester.jpg

[red states rule]

If by "in the end" you mean after the primaries are completed and a party nominee is selected, then yes, we do.

That seems to be the only time conservatives can work as a team. If we can learn to act as a team *BEFORE* the primaries, like the GOP establishment does, there's a good chance we can get what we want.

But that's not going to happen if we preach separation from the RINO 30% of the party.

Independent mindedness is going to briefly take a backseat to teamwork if the conservative coalition wants a candidate nominated.



Nobody said it was "impossible" for conservatives to get into office.

I will say, however, it is extremely unlikely we will ever have a national presidential candidate if we keep putting up 4 or 5 conservative candidates to split the vote against one establishment RINO.



I generally overlook spelling, but this was more than just spelling. Wrong word entirely. "martial" vs. "marshall"
That was a friendly service I was offering. That's one boo-boo you don't wanna repeat.

Taft, I believe that most R's are worried about what the NY Times, Chris Matthews, the morning and Sunday talk show hosts will say about them. They would rather be complimented by the liberal media then called "racist, mean spirited, and how they hate the poor". You see, when libs stand for big government, handouts, and more spending they are described as "principled". When R's stand for smaller government, self reliance, and getting government off the backs of the people they are called "obstructionist"