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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Now that our blessed government has ruled lying like a rug to be a-ok.
    So you're not OK with the First Amendment? Or we should let bad law stand just because you agree with it? You could start a thread about how you would repeal the First and replace it with one that meets with your approval, I dare say you might could get quite a bit of agreement on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    So you're not OK with the First Amendment? Or we should let bad law stand just because you agree with it? You could start a thread about how you would repeal the First and replace it with one that meets with your approval, I dare say you might could get quite a bit of agreement on that.
    The law just struck down was in effect for years ,only people affected by it were the lying b@stards that tried to steal glory from honorable men and women's sacrifices. No innocent people suffered.
    Are you upset those lying b@stards could not so freely ply their trade? Do tell... --Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    So you're not OK with the First Amendment? Or we should let bad law stand just because you agree with it? You could start a thread about how you would repeal the First and replace it with one that meets with your approval, I dare say you might could get quite a bit of agreement on that.
    Tyr is a big believer in only defending the rights that HE agrees with. Fuck everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    The law just struck down was in effect for years ,only people affected by it were the lying b@stards that tried to steal glory from honorable men and women's sacrifices. No innocent people suffered.
    Are you upset those lying b@stards could not so freely ply their trade? Do tell... --Tyr
    5 and a half years from being signed to struck down. Not exactly "years" in Constitutional terms but yes the First does protect the lying bastards as well as the rest of us. I'd be upset if the Constitution were not upheld for your expedience.

    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Tyr is a big believer in only defending the rights that HE agrees with. Fuck everyone else.
    That's apparently the only explanation here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    5 and a half years from being signed to struck down. Not exactly "years" in Constitutional terms but yes the First does protect the lying bastards as well as the rest of us. I'd be upset if the Constitution were not upheld for your expedience.



    That's apparently the only explanation here.
    To be fair to Tyr, he's not alone. Look at two issues like gun ownership and gay marriage. Each has defenders who are simultaneously trying to take the other away from someone else.

    People who don't understand that the rights which we should defend most strongly are those with which we disagree the most are stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    ... he's not alone.
    No doubt, it takes courage and honor to stand up for the rights of even those you disagree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    No doubt, it takes courage and honor to stand up for the rights of even those you disagree with.
    But it's easier to yell "shut up, dems bad you leave if you don't agree with me"

    then to actually think and realize the truth of what we're saying here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    No doubt, it takes courage and honor to stand up for the rights of even those you disagree with.
    As it does for defending those unable to do so for themselves because in their sacrifice they died defending this great nation!
    Defending somebody's right to be a damn lying b@stard seems to thrill you and your friend.
    Usually defending honor and integrity is -Not about defending the right to lie and steal! That you think it is speaks volumes. -Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Recent research shows that those guilty of having Stolen Valor come out to defend their actions on blogs, forums , etc. They often do this by decrying the attack on the 1st Amendment!
    While what they really mean is it's nobody's damn business how much the lying b@stards lie!!
    I myself find such trash talk a poor substitute for defending honor and integrity.
    And those vomiting it out to be shills of the lowest order IMHO.-Tyr
    Interesting; A losing argument deflected by attacking an opponent. Honor? Perhaps Congress will get around to passing a better law, if possible, so the lying bastards will no longer get away with their shameful behavior... Oh wait, they don't all get away with it. Your own OP evidences that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    As it does for defending those unable to do so for themselves because in their sacrifice they died defending this great nation!
    Defending somebody's right to be a damn lying b@stard seems to thrill you and your friend.
    Usually defending honor and integrity is -Not about defending the right to lie and steal! That you think it is speaks volumes. -Tyr
    You should try and grasp the difference between the public rightfully shaming despicable acts, and prosecuting where an option, and an overreach of government power that infringes on the BoR. For someone who whines and moans about BO and his power grabs you sure like to vest power in government when it suits your point of view. Whether it's this or something like torture, you're all about government power when wielded in your favor.
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