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    Default CIA warned of risks of war in the Mideast

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18854414/

    NBC: CIA warned of risks of war in the Mideast
    Pre-war reports say agency predicted dangers of toppling Saddam's regime


    By Lisa Myers and Robert Windrem
    NBC News Investigative Unit
    Updated: 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
    In a move sure to raise even more questions about the decision to go to war
    with Iraq, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence will on Friday
    release selected portions of pre-war intelligence in which the CIA warned
    the administration of the risk and consequences of a conflict in the Middle
    East.

    Among other things, the 40-page Senate report reveals that two intelligence
    assessments before the war accurately predicted that toppling Saddam could
    lead to a dangerous period of internal violence and provide a boost to
    terrorists. But those warnings were seemingly ignored.

    In January 2003, two months before the invasion, the intelligence
    community's think tank — the National Intelligence Council — issued an
    assessment warning that after Saddam was toppled, there was “a significant
    chance that domestic groups would engage in violent conflict with each other
    and that rogue Saddam loyalists would wage guerilla warfare either by
    themselves or in alliance with terrorists.”



    It also warned that “many angry young recruits” would fuel the rank of
    Islamic extremists and "Iraqi political culture is so embued with mores
    (opposed) to the democratic experience … that it may resist the most
    rigorous and prolonged democratic tutorials."

    None of those warnings were reflected in the administration's predictions
    about the war.

    In fact, Vice President Cheney stated the day before the war, “Now, I think
    things have gotten so bad inside Iraq, from the standpoint of the Iraqi
    people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.”

    A second assessment weeks before the invasion warned that the war also could
    be “exploited by terrorists and extremists outside Iraq.”

    The same assessment added, “Iraqi patience with an extended U.S. presence
    after an overwhelming victory would be short,” and said “humanitarian
    conditions in many parts of Iraq would probably not understand that the
    Coalition wartime logistic pipeline would require time to reorient its
    mission to humanitarian aid.”

    Both assessments were given to the White House and to congressional
    intelligence committees.

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    I see that favorite word in there again. "ignored"...it's what is always said about advice or briefings given to the president. Just because something isn't acted upon doesn't mean its ignored. Other factors come into play with every decision.
    Factors we and the news media are not privy too.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    I see that favorite word in there again. "ignored"...it's what is always said about advice or briefings given to the president. Just because something isn't acted upon doesn't mean its ignored. Other factors come into play with every decision.
    Factors we and the news media are not privy too.
    If Eisenhower and FDR has "listened" to all the warnings regarding Operation Overlord,the European invasion may have never taken place. They were "warned" to expect 10,000 KIAs.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    I see that favorite word in there again. "ignored"...it's what is always said about advice or briefings given to the president.
    You're right. He does seem to ignore a lot of things. One wonders what the world would have been like if he didn't ignore that important daily briefing and postponed his vacation.

    Just because something isn't acted upon doesn't mean its ignored. Other factors come into play with every decision.
    Factors we and the news media are not privy too.
    Gaffer, while I applaud your dedication, this one is a biggie. We were warned that this would have happend, and ignored it. People that knew about this culture spoke up and it didn't fit into what this administrations agenda was, so it was ignored and look what we have now, much like the firing of Arabic translators when we needed them the most. If some sort of preperation or foresight would have been put into this, we might be out of there by now.

    This war has been nothing but one "ignore" and mistake after another. I don't know what other factors could come into play that you are talking about. Sounds like wishful thinking and excuses to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lily View Post
    You're right. He does seem to ignore a lot of things. One wonders what the world would have been like if he didn't ignore that important daily briefing and postponed his vacation.



    Gaffer, while I applaud your dedication, this one is a biggie. We were warned that this would have happend, and ignored it. People that knew about this culture spoke up and it didn't fit into what this administrations agenda was, so it was ignored and look what we have now, much like the firing of Arabic translators when we needed them the most. If some sort of preperation or foresight would have been put into this, we might be out of there by now.

    This war has been nothing but one "ignore" and mistake after another. I don't know what other factors could come into play that you are talking about. Sounds like wishful thinking and excuses to me.
    Then Congress shouldn't have funded the war again.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Then Congress shouldn't have funded the war again.

    I gree %100 and I know how mine voted.

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    Mine voted for it and I am ashamed of them.


    Quote Originally Posted by lily View Post
    I gree %100 and I know how mine voted.
    But I am not a voice in the wilderness. My neighbors are beginning to think, I think. Many of them are pretty quiet right now but I never shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    I see that favorite word in there again. "ignored"...it's what is always said about advice or briefings given to the president. Just because something isn't acted upon doesn't mean its ignored. Other factors come into play with every decision.
    Factors we and the news media are not privy too.
    The Liberal Media is only interested in storys that attack the President, not support him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Mine voted for it and I am ashamed of them.




    But I am not a voice in the wilderness. My neighbors are beginning to think, I think. Many of them are pretty quiet right now but I never shut up.

    ???????
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
    Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

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    Liberal Media? Point it out, nm. There is no such thing in the year 2007 or in any years that I can remember.


    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    The Liberal Media is only interested in storys that attack the President, not support him.
    Point it out with quotes and links or I must consider you a liar. Actually, I already thought that but surely you can come up with something, can't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    I see that favorite word in there again. "ignored"...it's what is always said about advice or briefings given to the president. Just because something isn't acted upon doesn't mean its ignored. Other factors come into play with every decision.
    Factors we and the news media are not privy too.
    Yes, gaffer, it really is our duty as good little republicans to just do as we're told and trust everyone with an 'R' after their name.

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    Even after all these years and all these lives and all these revelations you are still trying to defend your locksteps?


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Yes, gaffer, it really is our duty as good little republicans to just do as we're told and trust everyone with an 'R' after their name.
    Git along lil' doggies, the herd is turning left!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Even after all these years and all these lives and all these revelations you are still trying to defend your locksteps?




    Git along lil' doggies, the herd is turning left!!!!!!!!!!
    That was sarcasm, turdknocker.

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    Excuuuuse the hell out of me, Surge.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    That was sarcasm, turdknocker.
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