Conservatism-It's meanings in American politic its true opposition to Islam/terrorism

[red states rule]

Not just a delusion, but layer upon layer of them.

What makes you think I've spent any more time on Sullivan than I've had to ? YOU are the one who copies what he does, and YOU are the one who first went to his site to extract some wording which you, like he did, thought you could use to bolster a fiction about yourself.

You can't get around the fact that IF your source for your signature text came from a source other than Sullivan's site, you would naturally have posted that evidence whenever you could. But you wholly failed to do so. Why? Because any site other than Sullivan's was incidental to the truth of where you DID get your material from, originally.

No, FJ, you've been outed as the fraud you are. A Left-winger with a characteristic lack of regard for truth, an opportunist who'll use what it takes to further your Left wing agenda (e.g finding any excuse to be a pro-terrorist sanitiser and protector ... they, according to you, are 'human beings' whose 'human rights are sacrosanct') ... and in between, easily the rudest, most abusive excuse for a blogger I've encountered in years. I even spent much of one post just listing your abusive remarks from THIS THREAD ALONE !

Why am I still bothering with you at all ? Since you're such a waste of space (and of my time) I really have no good answer.

-- Time I stopped, then. No doubt your great need for attention will make you try and goad ever-more responses ? To which I say: GET SOME HELP. You clearly need it.

So FU bellows how he loves to see you twist. Looks like he is one of "those" as well (Not hat there is anything wrong with that) as being an angry childlike liberal

You are beating FU like a government mule Drummond. Have fun

[red states rule]

FJ, you may be a legend in your own mind. To my mind, you're just being delusional.

What you call 'twisting' is a simple act (or more than one) of exposure of the weakness of your 'case'. Nothing stopped you posting the Telegraph link, AGAIN and AGAIN, in answer to all my various posts ... except ...

... for just the one obvious, glaring problem you've had, all this time. Namely ... IT WASN'T THE SOURCE MATERIAL YOU STARTED OUT WITH.

... Nope. SULLIVAN'S BLOG was.

And, for why ? Because you think like him, argue like him ... he, being someone CLAIMING to be a Conservative, whilst all the while, he's been independently outed as someone sharing, and arguing for, many LEFT wing views.

I'm in no doubt that you model yourself on him.

Now .. are you going to stop wasting my time ? Or is your need for attention getting the better of you ???

Drummond, you are exposing more and more about FU. No doubt he is a loony tune leftie but know you have brought FU out of the closet.

That would explain his hate toward women and using women to attempt to insult people

I can understand his hate towards women - it started the night a hooker turned him down telling him she had a headache

It is sad to see FU disintegrate into a stumbling, bumbling, babbling liberal idiot. But it could not happen to a nicer guy!

[fj1200]

Ok, but who here hasn't been rude to another member AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER except maybe Abbey, Trinity and a couple other ladies. I am guilty which I freely admit. ... And its not my call how long such a grudge should be held by another man.

I can't/won't argue that point but when one presents a thread as example of their being civil then one shouldn't be surprised when that whole thread is used to present evidence that they are in fact NOT civil. Nevertheless when that grudge leads one to lie about other members and disrupt threads in violation of rules then it's a fair guess that it might have been held a hair too long.

[Arbo]

I can't/won't argue that point but when one presents a thread as example of their being civil then one shouldn't be surprised when that whole thread is used to present evidence that they are in fact NOT civil. Nevertheless when that grudge leads one to lie about other members and disrupt threads in violation of rules then it's a fair guess that it might have been held a hair too long.

You skipped the repeated claims of how he was going to 'beat ass' on all sorts of people. Sounds more like the high school 'me play football' meathead than a civilized (or intelligent) person. As I pointed out in another thread, same sort of propensity for violence as extremists of a certain religion that he hates. LOL.

[fj1200]

... FU ... FU ...

It's nice to see that I pwn you too.

... FU. ... leftie ... FU ... FU ...

I invite you to continue your failure in pointing out my "leftie" positions. Oh yeah, and prove your lies too. It's just a shame that we have idiots like you who think they are the face of educated conservatism here and in the world. But take heart, at least if you stopped ignoring like a middle school girl here then you wouldn't have actual conservatives continuing to make you look the fool.

[fj1200]

You skipped...

No, Tyr was not the subject of my post. I also don't hole grudges.

[Drummond]

Drummond, you are exposing more and more about FU. No doubt he is a loony tune leftie but know you have brought FU out of the closet.

That would explain his hate toward women and using women to attempt to insult people

I can understand his hate towards women - it started the night a hooker turned him down telling him she had a headache

It is sad to see FU disintegrate into a stumbling, bumbling, babbling liberal idiot. But it could not happen to a nicer guy!

[Drummond]

I can't/won't argue that point ......

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...774#post671774

[fj1200]

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...774#post671774

[Drummond]

… it is humorous to watch you and a few other tards rant on about 'lefties', when anyone with 2 functioning brain cells that has read posts from said 'lefties' could clearly see how stupid your claims of 'lefty' are. Do you get it this time or do you need more explanation.

I need no lectures from you, thanks.

Let me simply say that anyone asserting that I can't spot a Left winger from a mile away (.. or in this case, a couple of thousand ?) just isn't being realistic. In my society, we've had GENERATIONS of Left-leaning politicians and their many sympathisers positively swamp our culture. They're everywhere ! The BBC is riddled with it, the Guardian, the Daily Mirror likewise, I can't recall a time when I couldn't spot them in the workplace.

Socialist influence, I'm sure, is more widespread and more entrenched here than in the US, and its supporters even less bashful about promoting it than in your part of the world. So to suppose I 'can't' spot them is, frankly, a ludicrous suggestion of yours.

I shall continue to tell it as I see it, Arbo, whether or not you approve.

[Drummond]

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...774#post671774

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Well that grudge led himto be rude to members and staff, including abbey; so I believe your admiration in the instant case is ill-supported and speaks more to your own grudge and/or bias.

One may admire a man for his stand on an issue without applauding other comments he may make when angry or provoked. You playing off my supporting a member being rude to Abbey don't cut it Hoss. I simply don't play that way. Because I've never seen a solitary example of Abbey ever deserving such treatment. Sure I know how to hold a grudge and I am no different than anybody else where being biased is concerned. Paint that anyway you care too but I'll damn sure call you on it when you paint it with a total falsehood as was your example of citing that I in anyway supported Abbey suffering rude comments ..By the way, had I ever saw such comments you could bet your right arm I'd have replied to them myself..-Tyr

[Arbo]

I need no lectures from you, thanks.

Let me simply say that anyone asserting that I can't spot a Left winger from a mile away (.. or in this case, a couple of thousand ?) just isn't being realistic. In my society, we've had GENERATIONS of Left-leaning politicians and their many sympathisers positively swamp our culture. They're everywhere ! The BBC is riddled with it, the Guardian, the Daily Mirror likewise, I can't recall a time when I couldn't spot them in the workplace.

Socialist influence, I'm sure, is more widespread and more entrenched here than in the US, and its supporters even less bashful about promoting it than in your part of the world. So to suppose I 'can't' spot them is, frankly, a ludicrous suggestion of yours.

I shall continue to tell it as I see it, Arbo, whether or not you approve.

You are of course free to call it as you incorrectly see it. My point merely being that you have achieved negative credibility by continuing to make such insanely incorrect acquisitions. It is noted as well that you and others that claim such thing, have yet to back any of it up. Should be easy, going trough posts and pulling out all the 'lefty' stuff to prove your point.

[Drummond]

You are of course free to call it as you incorrectly see it. My point merely being that you have achieved negative credibility by continuing to make such insanely incorrect acquisitions. It is noted as well that you and others that claim such thing, have yet to back any of it up. Should be easy, going trough posts and pulling out all the 'lefty' stuff to prove your point.

I don't understand what you mean by 'acquisitions' Unless .. you meant 'accusations' .. ?? I'll assume you did.

You seem to think that I haven't backed up what I've been asserting ? I fail to understand that.

Observe, study FULLY, the contents of the post I'm supplying a link to, here ...

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...987#post671987

I trust that this corrects matters for you. But, if not ... well, I don't doubt that yet more examples can be supplied, if you want them.

[fj1200]

You seem to think that I haven't backed up what I've been asserting ? I fail to understand that.

Observe, study FULLY, the contents of the post I'm supplying a link to, here ...

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...987#post671987

You keep pointing back to a failed post since refuted. Someone with an ego would wonder about that