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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Do you suggest that we outlaw Islam in America ?

    `Yes...Islam is a Cult...and not a Religion...Real Religions have evolved...For anyone to think otherwise, they are not familiar with Islam or cults. There is a big difference between religions and cults. The basic difference is freedom. You are free to practice a religion if you choose. Free to go to church. Free not to go. This is not the case with Islam. This is because those who do not practice Islam in Islamic countries are put to death. There is a great deal of pressure to practice Islam in western countries as well.


    A cult isolates you from others. One of the first things a cult leader does is to get the cult members away from those who do not share beliefs of the cult. Cult members are often driven away from family members. The purpose is to make the cult member more dependent on the cult. This is how Islam works. Islam is not a religion, Islam is a cult. Islam teaches that those who do not follow Islam are enemies. Muslims are discouraged from socializing with those of other faiths. The Koran states that those who do not follow Islam are enemies and should be driven off. Violence is even advocated for non believers. This is another example of why Islam is not a religion. Islam is a cult.


    Another aspect about cults is that they get followers to do things that disturb others to force their cult on others. Most cult members are brainwashed so that they are totally under control by the cult. This is the reason why so many Muslims are willing to strap on a suicide vest and blow themselves up to take out as many non believers as possible. Regular religions do not advocate this type of violence or behavior. While a religion may ask that you give yourself to God, they do not ask that you do so wearing a suicide vest while killing innocent people. Or learn to fly a plane into buildings so that you can take out as many innocent lives as possible. No religion in the world advocates violence in the way that Islam does.

    **Those who defend Islam and make comparisons to Christianity, namely the crusades, do not realize that during the Crusades, that happened many centuries ago, it was convert or die. Again, this did not happen a few years ago, but in a time when people also killed the infirm and used leeches as a form of medicine. And people were given a choice to convert. This is not the case with Islam. You do not have a choice. Suicide bombers and terrorists kill all targets without issuing a choice of conversion. Even their own. Islam requires total and unquestioning devotion to the cult, to the point where women and children are encouraged to die as martyrs and kill innocents. Islam is a cult.

    It is hard to realize that Islam is not a religion because for years, we were told it was. An offshoot of Judaism and Christianity with all three religions being closely related. But as Islam has grown, its true colors have come out. Islam is not a religion, Islam is a cult`

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post
    `Yes...Islam is a Cult...and not a Religion...Real Religions have evolved...For anyone to think otherwise, they are not familiar with Islam or cults. There is a big difference between religions and cults. The basic difference is freedom. You are free to practice a religion if you choose. Free to go to church. Free not to go. This is not the case with Islam. This is because those who do not practice Islam in Islamic countries are put to death. There is a great deal of pressure to practice Islam in western countries as well.


    A cult isolates you from others. One of the first things a cult leader does is to get the cult members away from those who do not share beliefs of the cult. Cult members are often driven away from family members. The purpose is to make the cult member more dependent on the cult. This is how Islam works. Islam is not a religion, Islam is a cult. Islam teaches that those who do not follow Islam are enemies. Muslims are discouraged from socializing with those of other faiths. The Koran states that those who do not follow Islam are enemies and should be driven off. Violence is even advocated for non believers. This is another example of why Islam is not a religion. Islam is a cult.


    Another aspect about cults is that they get followers to do things that disturb others to force their cult on others. Most cult members are brainwashed so that they are totally under control by the cult. This is the reason why so many Muslims are willing to strap on a suicide vest and blow themselves up to take out as many non believers as possible. Regular religions do not advocate this type of violence or behavior. While a religion may ask that you give yourself to God, they do not ask that you do so wearing a suicide vest while killing innocent people. Or learn to fly a plane into buildings so that you can take out as many innocent lives as possible. No religion in the world advocates violence in the way that Islam does.

    **Those who defend Islam and make comparisons to Christianity, namely the crusades, do not realize that during the Crusades, that happened many centuries ago, it was convert or die. Again, this did not happen a few years ago, but in a time when people also killed the infirm and used leeches as a form of medicine. And people were given a choice to convert. This is not the case with Islam. You do not have a choice. Suicide bombers and terrorists kill all targets without issuing a choice of conversion. Even their own. Islam requires total and unquestioning devotion to the cult, to the point where women and children are encouraged to die as martyrs and kill innocents. Islam is a cult.

    It is hard to realize that Islam is not a religion because for years, we were told it was. An offshoot of Judaism and Christianity with all three religions being closely related. But as Islam has grown, its true colors have come out. Islam is not a religion, Islam is a cult`

    There is no freedom in Islam and it allows it in no others when it can enforce that murdering creed!
    They are on the move worldwide and our nation --government refuses to openly tell us , to educate the populace instead it covers for them with crap like "workplace violence" terms and giving out its only the "radicals" when its a core uncompromising part of Islam-Jihad--the holiest cause to die for Allah , to slay infidels .
    Sorry just now saw your very fine post --I've been distracted while talking to a child elsewhere .. -Tyr
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    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Allah is #1, says this Religion of Peace enthusiast, who went
    on to behead a female co-worker in Oklahoma last week.
    His prophet did not generally behead women, however.
    Muhammad (peace be upon him) usually raped them
    after beheading their men and enslaving their children.


    Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace "Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
    to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29


    2014.10.01 (Homs, Syria) - Several children are among over thirty souls obliterated when Sunnis set off two bombs near a Shiite school and hospital.
    2014.10.01 (Kabul, Afghanistan) - Eight people are pulled into pieces by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
    2014.09.30 (Kobane, Syria) - Three women are among nine Kurds beheaded by the caliphate, which places the heads on display.
    2014.09.29 (Michika, Nigeria) - At least forty people, including children and elderly, are reported dead following a 'merciless' Boko Haram attack on two small villages.
    2014.09.29 (Kabul, Afghanistan) - A Shahid suicide bomber takes out seven civilians.
    2014.09.28 (al-Baida, Yemen) - A Shiite family of six is exterminated by Ansar al-Sharia. The numbers again...
    30+8+9+40+7+6= 100 murdered innocent people.
    Religion of Pieces strikes yet again..
    I am confident that such could never happen here. O' wait a minute it just did....
    Lady had her head cut completely off ......
    O' wait, sorry that was "workplace violence" I see, government says so. No worries, be happy. -Tyr
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    Police captain punished for refusing to attend Muslim Brotherhood-linked mosque

    October 13, 2014
    10:13 PM MST

    The city of Tulsa, Oklahoma, punished one of its own veteran police commanders for his refusal to attend a Muslim religious service being held at a mosque he said practiced radical Islamic dogma, according to court records. He also "dared" to refuse to order his officers to visit a mosque he alleges has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.


    Capt. Fields' life became a raging storm simply because he refused to visit a mosque that allegedly has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Capt. Fields' life became a raging storm simply because he refused to visit a mosque that allegedly has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Courtesy of the Tulsa FOP

    Captain Paul Fields said he was told to participate in what he characterized as a "proselytizing" Islamic worship service and that he must also order the police officers under his command to also attend and participate in the service. As a result he was relieved of his command and was harassed by the Internal Affairs Division (IAD), a group called the "rat squad" by most American cops in a majority of law enforcement agencies.

    "Once some IAD squad begins to investigate you, even if you have an immaculate record as a cop, they dig until they find something that they can point to as being misconduct or corruption," said former police detective Sid Franes, who worked with a former IAD lieutenant in New York. "In Fields' case it appears they were claiming he was prejudiced against Muslims and he wasn't fit to lead police officers," Franes added.

    When Fields took legal action against his police department, it ended up before the federal judges who sat on the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals and the court upheld the punishment of Capt. Fields. In essence the court ruled that the decorated cop should have visited the mosque and brought his officers with him as he was ordered to do by the city's political leaders.

    "Here is another example of lawyers wearing black robes telling Americans what church services they must attend. Would they have ruled this way if it were a Muslim being ordered to attend and participate in a religious service at a Hindu temple? Or at a Catholic Cathedral? I think not," notes former police lieutenant and campus police chief Lloyd Herrington. "Fields was part of an object lesson to follow a politically-correct orthodoxy that's taking over the nation and its public and private sector institutions," Herrington said.

    Now Capt. Fields, with the help of a legal foundation that fights for constitutional rights, especially First Amendment rights, is aiming to take his legal battle to the U.S. Supreme Court. The Thomas Moore Law Center is providing Fields with pro-bono legal help in fighting not only a major city police department but also a federal court that has "lost its way" with a warped understanding of the U.S. Constitution and America values

    The law center's lead counsel, Richard Thompson, said in a statement: “This case is another startling example of applying a double standard when Christian civil rights are involved. If this were a Catholic or Protestant prayer event, I am positive no Muslim police officer would have been ordered to attend. Further, no federal court would have approved the punishment of a Muslim officer had he refused to attend.”

    The Muslim event was characterized as the mosque's Law Enforcement Appreciation Day, but it allegedly had nothing to do with appreciation of police officers. According to Fields' attorneys, Law Enforcement Appreciation Day involved the captain and his officers taking a tour of the mosque, attending a meeting with the mosque's leadership, attending the Muslim's weekly prayer service, acquainting the police officers with Islamic religious reading material, and lectures on Islamic beliefs.

    The event, which was scheduled for Friday, March 4, 2011, which the Islamic leaders said was a "holy day," was also going to familiarize the cops with a white-washed version of Mohammad's life as well as key elements of the Muslim religion and prayers. Originally, the police officers were asked to attend voluntarily, but the majority of officers refused the invitation. At that point the police were mandated to show up at the mosque.

    According to Thomas More attorneys and Capt. Fields, the mosque's clerics were clever in hiding their suspected radical-brand of Islam. For example, according to the law center, the same Muslim leaders had hosted a dinner to honor one of unindicted Imam Siraj Wahhaj co-conspirators involved in the 1993 bombing in New York City at the lower-level of the World Trade Center, that killed six people and injured many others.

    Fields and his legal team possess evidence that the same Siraj Wahhaj told Muslims in New Jersey in 1992, that he wished Muslims were cleverer politically so they could take over the United States and replace its Representative-Republic government with a caliphate and Shariah law...................................
    Think this man would be so very severely punished for refusing to attend a Christian church???
    They are going to create a --"muslim card" to play just like the blacks have that false "race card" to play....
    This is Obama's America folks, just like many of us stated was coming after the scum was sworn in.
    This is the standard now being set... Obama leads the way... check NASA FOR THAT ....

    I stated this was coming here in my thread titled , I Take My Stand, You---- I posted here 3 years ago.

    NOW WE SEE VERY CLEAR EVIDENCE OF IT AS I PREDICTED.-Tyr
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From my new thread here in the Current Events forum..

    So obvious this examples clearly points to the validity of this extremely long thread ...
    Time proves things either right or wrong ..
    We can now see the proof of my opening post in this thread and how on the mark it was..-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Do you suggest that we outlaw Islam in America ?
    How about we outlaw ALL religions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by indago View Post
    How about we outlaw ALL religions?
    Islam is a cult pretending to be a religion. It is quasi/political/military /"religious"
    ideology THAT wears a false cloak while it brainwashes hundreds of millions into believing
    Allah spoke to his favorite pervert child molester(Mohamboy) giving divine decrees to follow.
    Namely, murder non-believers or else convert/enslave them.


    •Tears of Jihad. He claims that Islam is the greatest killer of all time, worse than Christianity, fascism or communism.


    •Bill Warner interview, Feb 2007 (and copy) ◦ "First, let's see how ignorant we are about the history of political Islam. How many Christians can tell you how Turkey or Egypt became Islamic? What happened to the Seven Churches of Asia mentioned in Paul's letters? Find a Jew who can tell you the Jewish history of dhimmitude (second class citizens who serve Islam). What European knows that white women were the highest priced slaves in Mecca? Everyone knows how many Jews Hitler killed, but find an unbeliever who can tell you how many died in jihad over the last 1400 years."
    ◦ "Jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to be the victims of jihad. The history of political Islam is the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest. Half of the glorious Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million Hindus killed. The first Western Buddhists were the Greeks descended from Alexander the Great's army in what is now Afghanistan. Jihad destroyed all of Buddhism along the silk route. About 10 million Buddhists died. The conquest of Buddhism is the practical result of pacifism. Zoroastrianism was eliminated from Persia. The Jews became permanent dhimmis throughout Islam. In Africa over 120 million Christians and animists have died over the last 1400 years of jihad. Approximately 270 million nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political Islam. These are the Tears of Jihad which are not taught in any school."
    Approximately 270 million humans murdered. Yet other sources state as low as 240 million murdered by Islam.

    Islam is now set to get nukes (Iran) how many millions more??????
    Think about it America, your president is one of them.. He is helping Iran get nukes. A fact.

    ---------------------------------------------
    HOW ABOUT WE TARGET THE RIGHT ONE!--Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by indago View Post
    How about we outlaw ALL religions?

    Great idea. Then....STUPIDITY will rule, for certain.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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    Quote Originally Posted by indago View Post
    How about we outlaw ALL religions?

    Why? It is a basic human right to be able to 'believe' as you choose. Any religion that does not preach to its followers that lying and killing infidels or non-believers is fine and dandy should be no problem to anyone. When it goes too far and becomes, not a religion, but a political movement and a means to control the masses, then it's not technically a "religion".

    Christianity does not teach followers that they should lie to any non-Christians, because it's justified by God. It does not teach that Christians should go out and murder any infidels/non-believers. Quite the opposite, in fact.

    So what would the point of outlawing Christianity be? Other than handing the planet over to the evil aholes that are even now, as we speak, turning the world into one big cesspool (or trying to).

    Just my two cents.

    Oh....and welcome to the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indago View Post
    How about we outlaw ALL religions?

    Who decides what IS, or ISN'T a religion? Athiests?

    If non-believers fear something they INSIST, does not exist. What would be a reason to outlaw anything they call religion...if it doesn't exist in the first place?

    So. What would be the logic in outlawing something some people claim...ISN'T?
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    You can't ask people who are not patriots to come up with a patriotic plan.
    You can't ask people with no sense of sanity to come up with a sane response.
    You can't ask people who favor violent revenge to come up with a plan to answer violence.
    This from the person here who belongs to the party that hosts people who would kidnap and torture radio personalities because they disagree with them.

    This from the person whose party wants to silence political speech on the Internet.

    This from the person whose party tried to radically change the 1st amendment so that free speech is at the whim of congress.

    This from the person whose party forced through legislation to take over health care in America based on nothing but lies and deception.

    Gabs, careful where you toss those rocks.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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    Currently Obama operates directly against the best interests of this nation in the majority of actions he takes. After spearheading the disaster now called Obamacare, he has repeatedly used Executive Orders to go around Congress to do things that Are Illegal and definitely not part of his Presidential duties. They are instead his personal political desires that he twists the authority of his office to institute.
    That is treason, not mere political hijinks or ineptness.....

    He should be impeached and tried for his treason!!!!!!! --Tyr
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    Our nations 7 top threats, not presented in any order of importance or magnitude.

    1. Obama/Globalist agenda/New World Order
    2. Islam
    3. The Democrat Party
    4. Illegal immigration/Amnesty
    5. Totally inept Liberal/socialist styled Education System
    6. Sold out media
    7. Foreign nations, Russia, Iran, China, etc...
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    Read the opening to this thread and then look at this current situation-link provided.
    Seems my critics three years ago didn't have a clue and I was dead on the mark..

    Muslim Caucus in Washington Says Islam Commands All Muslims to Vote in a Bloc

    October 31, 2014 by Daniel Greenfield

    Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.


    A little taste of the Islamization of America.




    Well that’s good news for democracy. You can see why Democrats want more Muslim immigrants. What’s better than a choice between a bloc vote and a beheading?


    The endorsements are flying ahead of next week’s D.C. general election, but only one group’s have come with a religious edict.

    That would be the endorsements of the D.C. Muslim Caucus, a group that is backing the Democratic nominees in the races on the D.C. ballot, plus independent at-large council candidate Elissa Silverman and two candidates in nonpartisan State Board of Education races. It is also urging a vote against Initiative 71, which would legalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana.

    What sets the Muslim Caucus apart isn’t the candidates it is backing but this sentence in the Monday news release announcing those endorsements: “According to Islamic tenets, Muslims participating in democratic elections are obligated to vote as a bloc based upon a consensus of the Muslim community.”

    Asked about that exhortation, Muslim Caucus spokesman Talib Karim offered two publications he said supported the view that followers of Islam should vote en bloc for favored candidates. One is a statement adopted by a council of Islamic legal scholars at a 2007 meeting of the Muslim World League in Mecca…

    No need to worry about Islamic Sharia law coming to America. I doubt the Washington Post would have written this up if they hadn’t called for voting against legal pot. It must be tough for liberals to choose between marijuana and political correctness.

    ALL in just three short years folks...

    ALL vote as a bloc and that vote goes to the Dems..
    There is that unwritten alliance I spoke of long ago... --Tyr
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    Tyr, as you well know......the Germans had such an alliance (as well as one they planned to use) but, instead, they got used AND ABUSED before it was all said and done.
    NEVER MESS WITH AN
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    "The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God" Psalms 53:1

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    Quote Originally Posted by red state View Post
    Tyr, as you well know......the Germans had such an alliance (as well as one they planned to use) but, instead, they got used AND ABUSED before it was all said and done.
    Out future as a nation will soon see its greatest test ever. How we choose to meet that test will determine its survival.
    That test will erupt from internal division. And could very likely be during Obama term and from his deeds or even later but ,trust me, his foundation he is laying shall cause or allow it to eventually bear rotten fruit; for he is a destroyer--it is what he lives for--his hatred of the Western civilization , America, Israel and ALL we infidels (NON-MUSLIMS).
    I see him for exactly what he is..... Piss on anybody that does not , says this man.. --Tyr
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    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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