"... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner
"Lighght"
- This 'poem' was bought and paid for with $2,250 of YOUR money.
Name one thing the government does better than the private sector and I'll show you something that requires the use of force to accomplish.
When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.
You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.
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"... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner
"... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner
"Lighght"
- This 'poem' was bought and paid for with $2,250 of YOUR money.
Name one thing the government does better than the private sector and I'll show you something that requires the use of force to accomplish.
I assert that The Lord of the Rings and the Sword of Shannara both are unambiguously works of fiction; thus irrelevent to subject at hand despite my acceptance that they certainly exhibit the literary qualities of the magical and fantastic, as the Bible does.
I still affirm, however, exhibiting the literary qualities of the magical and fantastic is no argument against taking the Bible literally.
"... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner
All of genisis is fiction. It was nothing but an attempt to explain what couldn't be understood at the time. Everything must have a begining and a reason. You can check any legitimate theologian site and read about the various writers of genisis. They don't know the names, but they do know there were a number of contributors.
The bible, except for genisis, is historical and a great source for archeologists. But genisis is just mythology.
When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.
You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.
Ok. Instead of "much fiction," Genesis is "all fiction" then. This assertion is just expressing your previous assertion more emphatically--but it's not evidence that Genesis is much, or all, fiction. Now I'm fully aware that you assert Genesis is fiction, and I won't be confused about your position should you supply evidence that Genesis is fiction. So, how about that evidence?
Yes. That rationale is consistent with your assertion that Genesis is fiction, but it is not evidence that Genesis is fiction.
Yes. Nothing in Genesis denies that--so perhaps that part of Genesis may not be fiction?
What is a legitimate theologian site, what make them legitimate, and what evidence do they supply to support the assertion that there were various writers of Genesis?
Yes, I understand. This assertion is still not evidence that Genesis is fiction, it is just reasserting your previous assertion. I understand fully that you plan to be consistent with your assertion that Genesis is fiction. Fine. You'll present evidence that Genesis is fiction?
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"... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner
You continue stress the question about the fiction of Genesis. Since not s single portion of it can be proven to be anything but the opinions of the writers, it is simply a case of trying to prove a negative. If this is not so, kindly provide the slightest shread of evidence to the contrary, That would take some sort of physical proof. not theological.
Who else is as much a Bush-basher as I???
An Italian Confusious Say: "He who throwist mud, losith ground"
I may be questioning basis of, the so far unsupported, assertion that Genesis is fiction, Doniston, but I'm not stressing the question of the fictional nature of the Genesis story--those who continue with the, so far unsupported, assertion that Genesis is fiction, are. That would appear include you.
Yes. But, Doniston, I'm not asking anyone to prove a negative. I'm asking those who positively assert that the Genesis story is fiction to prove that the Genesis story is fiction. It's entirely different to assert there is no proof that the Genesis story has basis in verifiable evidence; and it's an entirely different challenge, than mine, to demand the submission of proof, of no proof.
It does not take physical proof, Doniston, it takes only the proof you have already provided--I don't have to submit non-existent physical proof that the Genesis story not fiction. For the argument I am making, I am fully comfortable with the assertion that there is no physical proof that the Genesis story is valid in fact of reality. I'm just not going to go further past my argument, to say that such lack of physical proof, is proof that the Genesis story is not valid in fact of reality, as others, including you, seem to assert.
"... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner