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    US Marines go ashore into a savage meat grinder on the Tarawa atoll. 1,700 U.S. personnel were killed, and another 2,100 were wounded.



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    My Dad was there..

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    Yeah after the Jap admiral said it couldn't be taken in 100 years by a million men.

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    And the "great" CHesty Puller is the one that created that meatgrinder. He lost a battalion with continued frontal assaults.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    And the "great" CHesty Puller is the one that created that meatgrinder. He lost a battalion with continued frontal assaults.
    well that was Marine fighting style. fuck the causalities and take the objective at all cost. especially with a large fleet waiting off shore

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    well that was Marine fighting style. fuck the causalities and take the objective at all cost. especially with a large fleet waiting off shore
    Could have been a little smarter, don't you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Could have been a little smarter, don't you think?
    yes no doubt. it was the Army that moved slow and kept causalities down to a minimum. except Patton. who should have been a marine. full speed ahead and damned the causalities

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    yes no doubt. it was the Army that moved slow and kept causalities down to a minimum. except Patton. who should have been a marine. full speed ahead and damned the causalities
    IMO, they should have attacked from 2 sides. Would have split the Japanese forces and not allowed them to focus all their firepower on one front. Hindsight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    IMO, they should have attacked from 2 sides. Would have split the Japanese forces and not allowed them to focus all their firepower on one front. Hindsight.
    actually they did. on red and green beach and the south beach but red was a slaughter house so they attacked from the other two. the airfield was the objective here


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    a vet of this battle returned to chase away some demons. what he found was shocking

    Leon Cooper return to Tarawa


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    The Japanese General had his men wait until the beaches were full before firing.

    That strategy greatly added to the slaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post
    The Japanese General had his men wait until the beaches were full before firing.

    That strategy greatly added to the slaughter
    And was stupid. That tactic failed for them more than twice. I'm not giving the enemy a foothold. Boats are easier to shoot at than people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    yes no doubt. it was the Army that moved slow and kept causalities down to a minimum. except Patton. who should have been a marine. full speed ahead and damned the causalities
    Patton was a tactical genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    And was stupid. That tactic failed for them more than twice. I'm not giving the enemy a foothold. Boats are easier to shoot at than people.
    they did shoot the amtracs as they came into the lagoon. they were forced to maneuver around the Jap obstacles which brought them into the cannon cross hairs. no win. blew em outta the water. also the tide was low and they got hung up on the reef coming into the lagoon. forced to offload troops onto smaller landing craft. it was a turkey shoot out there. those that made it to the beach had a 3 foot high coconut log wall to mount. a cluster fuck from the get go

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