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    Default Obama Orders Return of Tracked Vehicles

    Can this guy be even more idiotic?

    The surplus vehicles give LE quite a tactical advantage.

    http://patch.com/michigan/bloomfield...-surplus-tanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Can this guy be even more idiotic?

    The surplus vehicles give LE quite a tactical advantage.

    http://patch.com/michigan/bloomfield...-surplus-tanks
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    Well at least Obama has done something right during his time.

    sheesh lousie.
    the over militarization of the police is something that many here have been concerned about.
    lets not turn this move into a "obama said the sun gives earth light so that must be wrong" situation.
    violent crime is down nation wide. and police do not need military vehicles to write tickets or stop the local drug dealer.
    All that heavy equipment is overkill.

    The only thing it's really good for is killing citizen mobs and the citizen militia. And neither is the police's job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Well at least Obama has done something right during his time.

    sheesh lousie.
    the over militarization of the police is something that many here have been concerned about.
    lets not turn this move into a "obama said the sun gives earth light so that must be wrong" situation.
    violent crime is down nation wide. and police do not need military vehicles to write tickets or stop the local drug dealer.
    All that heavy equipment is overkill.

    The only thing it's really good for is killing citizen mobs and the citizen militia. And neither is the police's job.
    You mean giving the police the ability to combat criminals on an even footing? You probably think they should go back to 1963 Chryslers and 6 shot .38 specials.

    Get real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Well at least Obama has done something right during his time.

    sheesh lousie.
    the over militarization of the police is something that many here have been concerned about.
    lets not turn this move into a "obama said the sun gives earth light so that must be wrong" situation.
    violent crime is down nation wide. and police do not need military vehicles to write tickets or stop the local drug dealer.
    All that heavy equipment is overkill.

    The only thing it's really good for is killing citizen mobs and the citizen militia. And neither is the police's job.
    Disempowerment. It's a favourite game of the Left.

    Gun control ... an obsession of theirs, which they WILL NOT give up on, EVER. Now, if I read this correctly, the police, too, are to have their resource-capability downscaled ??

    What's next ... copying the British model of ensuring that the police don't even carry any weapons at all ?

    The direction SHOULD be to EMPOWER the police !!

    ... Unbelievable ....
    Last edited by Drummond; 12-05-2015 at 05:32 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Disempowerment. It's a favourite game of the Left.

    Gun control ... an obsession of theirs, which they WILL NOT give up on, EVER. Now, if I read this correctly, the police, too, is to have their resource-capability downscaled ??

    What's next ... copying the British model of ensuring that the police don't even carry any weapons at all ?

    The direction SHOULD be to EMPOWER the police !!
    But THAT is what this is all about. The Senate shot down 2 separate gun control bills and O-blah-blah-s having one of his "kid didn't get his way" tantrums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    But THAT is what this is all about. The Senate shot down 2 separate gun control bills and O-blah-blah-s having one of his "kid didn't get his way" tantrums.
    Typical Leftie control-freak madness. Wield control .. for its own sake. Any resemblance to ever actually doing something GOOD for anyone out of it is a purely coincidental by-product ...
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Typical Leftie control-freak madness. Wield control .. for its own sake. Any resemblance to ever actually doing something GOOD for anyone out of it is a purely coincidental by-product ...
    What do you suppose the bodycount would be if those people in that "gun free zone" were packing? I bet nowhere close to 14 dead and 17 wounded.
    Last edited by Gunny; 12-05-2015 at 06:15 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Disempowerment. It's a favourite game of the Left.

    Gun control ... an obsession of theirs, which they WILL NOT give up on, EVER. Now, if I read this correctly, the police, too, are to have their resource-capability downscaled ??

    What's next ... copying the British model of ensuring that the police don't even carry any weapons at all ?

    The direction SHOULD be to EMPOWER the police !!

    ... Unbelievable ....




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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Well at least Obama has done something right during his time.

    sheesh lousie.
    the over militarization of the police is something that many here have been concerned about.
    lets not turn this move into a "obama said the sun gives earth light so that must be wrong" situation.
    violent crime is down nation wide. and police do not need military vehicles to write tickets or stop the local drug dealer.
    All that heavy equipment is overkill.

    The only thing it's really good for is killing citizen mobs and the citizen militia. And neither is the police's job.
    That is all preposterous. I guess San Bernadino was not violent crime most recently.

    Whose job is it to set down mobs? Tell us 'expert'! Martial law would have
    to be declared, or else the National Guard turned out with the same damn vehicle types.

    It protects the responders including police, fire and medical.

    It gives them a way to shield innocents.

    How one-way blind can you be? Often the
    damn criminals out-gun the first LE on scene.

    Again, you do not know what you are talking about on
    issues like this.

    Now I anticipate another endless stream of Cut and Paste opinions
    written by others. Such is your style.
    Last edited by Elessar; 12-05-2015 at 08:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    That is all preposterous. I guess San Bernadino was not violent crime most recently.

    Whose job is it to set down mobs? Tell us 'expert'! Martial law would have
    to be declared, or else the National Guard turned out with the same damn vehicle types.

    It protects the responders including police, fire and medical.

    It gives them a way to shield innocents.

    How one-way blind can you be? Often the
    damn criminals out-gun the first LE on scene.

    Again, you do not know what you are talking about on
    issues like this.

    Now I anticipate another endless stream of Cut and Paste opinions
    written by others
    . Such is your style.
    And/or videos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Can this guy be even more idiotic?

    The surplus vehicles give LE quite a tactical advantage.

    http://patch.com/michigan/bloomfield...-surplus-tanks
    Yes. A tactical advantage in the coming Obama police state. Or so I've heard in other threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    You mean giving the police the ability to combat criminals on an even footing? You probably think they should go back to 1963 Chryslers and 6 shot .38 specials.

    Get real.
    Is anyone saying they should go back to 38s?
    Is an Amoured vehicle with a gun turret = to 38 special?
    you get real. the U.S. isn't Mayberry but it isn't a war zone either.


    Are your thinking it's use is for drug dealers most of whom have handguns, shotguns and maybe some AKs and the like? teenage gangs?
    how many drug based military level fire fights have you seen on the news? give me 3 n the whole U.S..
    they need armored vehicles and bazookas for that?

    or do they need it for shoplifters, wife beaters, pedophiles, speeders, homeless, car accidents, hit and runs, home buglers, rapist, trespassers, kidnappers, professional commercial thieves, jaywalkers, protesters, bar fights, drunks, kids smoking weed or directing traffic?

    there's no need for military grade weapons and vehicles unless you're an invading or occupying army.
    swat teams sit on their butts most of the year in most cities or make up BS to do just to keep busy and often used more force than needed in that make work.

    military grade vehicles in civilian police work is just bad policy gunny.
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