It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16
Bottom line is, you don't know what you're talking about. I was in the First Gulf War. We didn't go more than 25 miles into Iraq. SO whoever you think went around destroying WMDs must have been phantoms.
Bush, Blair and Cheney did not admit the WMDs weren't there. They admitted they didn't find them. Completely different scenarios.
In either case, why is it it takes a Pearl Harbor or a 9/11 to wake people like you up? You're all outraged, you cry for the government to do something, then when they do, you spend 15 years bitching about what YOU asked for. Why on Earth do ostriches like you stick your head in the sand and pretend the bad guys aren't bad guys because they aren't in your back yard? I'd much rather take them out in THEIR yard before they get any traction.
Then there're a people like you with the lamest of lame arguments. You can't get around the fact we sold the WMDs to Saddam and he DID use them. End of story.
Besides all that, how about you catch up to speed? Bush isn't running for President. He hasn't been President for over 7 years. Why is it we couldn't dare question Clinton the day Bush was declared winner (before he even took office) and everything became his fault and 7 years later of Obama it's STILL Bush's fault? I suppose ISIS is Bush's fault when it didn't even exist during his administration?
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
I started the thread after Trump was questioned/rebuked on his comment that Bush lied about the war etc.
and BTW Isis in Iraq is made up of Saddams former Bathist troops that Bush fired all at once leaving them without jobs and nothing to do but be pissed at america.
Clinton could have kiled Bin Laden but dropped the ball. Carter didn't have to support the Afghans and BinLaden against the USSR.
bad foreign policy decisions effect later generations and presidents. that's just the way it is.
I never wanted to attack Iraq. Afghanistan made sense at the time Iraq never did to me.
plus they didn't have any traction, the scuds they had were nearly WW2 era tech. they couldn't hit U.S. flyzone planes for 5+ years.
Saddam was not a threat to the US.
"he could not project power against his neighbors"
Also I can't put my finger on his testimony about the details but there was also a Major Doug Rokke that also did some chem weapons inspections and clean up but mainly DU clean up if i remember correctly..Originally Posted by newsweek
"I apologise," said Tony Blair in an interview with CNN's Fareed Zakaria, "for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong because, even though (Saddam) had used chemical weapons extensively against his own people, against others, the program in the form that we thought it was did not exist in the way that we thought."
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It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16
Did you miss the part where you are just another egghead with a bunch of pointless links that doesn't know what he's talking about? The fact is ad nauseum, the WMDs existed and we sold the damned things to Saddam and taught him how to use them. You've got NOTHING on that. Period.
Furthermore, you're whining about something that is OBE. No one cares. Yet you live in your own little let's relive the past fantasy world. So let's. The Confederate States had EVERY right to secede and ZERO law precluded it. Does that change the here and now? On;y insofar as the erosion of the Constitution is concerned.
Bush invaded Iraq and he had a valid reason for doing so and that ends your story before you get started. Why don't you try living in the here and now instead of 15 years ago?
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke