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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    To some, being Arabic/Muslim IS cause. Depends on your POV. You put people in judgment positions, you can't complain a lot if their judgment is off. If UA booked them on another flight then there should be no problem. I've been re-booked. I lost my seat to a corpse. That is an actual fact. Apparently I wasn't dead enough for the ride. I don't have a problem though with UA erring on the side of caution. 9/11 wasn't carried out by Zuahili warriors.
    Then they shouldn't work in a position that requires them to interact with Muslims on a daily basis. If they had cause to keep the family off the flight then I have no problem with it but I didn't see anything in the story that justified the action.
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    Was anyone here on that plane? If not, then we don't really know how this played out.

    As for apologizing, that never seems to work out well these days. It is seen as a sign of weakness and appeasement, and draws further attacks and litigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Was anyone here on that plane? If not, then we don't really know how this played out.

    As for apologizing, that never seems to work out well these days. It is seen as a sign of weakness and appeasement, and draws further attacks and litigation.
    How about not unnecessarily giving cause for having to apologize in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    How about not unnecessarily giving cause for having to apologize in the first place?
    How about that is a separate point, and does not make my claim any less true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    How about that is a separate point, and does not make my claim any less true?
    How about it's exactly the point and unnecessary fear is its own sign of weakness?
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    Seat issue.
    Removed for safety.
    Can fix issue.
    Get on next flight.

    Stick your whining and demands up your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    How about that is a separate point, and does not make my claim any less true?
    You were spot on. We have no way of knowing exactly how it went down and why specifically they were removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Then they shouldn't work in a position that requires them to interact with Muslims on a daily basis. If they had cause to keep the family off the flight then I have no problem with it but I didn't see anything in the story that justified the action.
    Why should the majority have to tip-toe around the minority? I should have whatever job I choose to have and if that requires me to make decisions, so be it. Trust me, I've done worst things to Arabs than toss them off a plane. Tough. The only question I have is why throw them off so soon when you wait until you reach cruising altitude to do it?

    In case you missed the fine print, I despise Arabs. They're cowardly, backstabbing little f*ckers that thank God you can smell coming. They wage ware against the weak/indigent. I have ZERO respect for them anymore than I have respect for those who give their tacit approval by saying nothing/denouncing them. They made their bed .. let them lie in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Why should the majority have to tip-toe around the minority? I should have whatever job I choose to have and if that requires me to make decisions, so be it. Trust me, I've done worst things to Arabs than toss them off a plane. Tough. The only question I have is why throw them off so soon when you wait until you reach cruising altitude to do it?

    In case you missed the fine print, I despise Arabs. They're cowardly, backstabbing little f*ckers that thank God you can smell coming. They wage ware against the weak/indigent. I have ZERO respect for them anymore than I have respect for those who give their tacit approval by saying nothing/denouncing them. They made their bed .. let them lie in it.
    Group guilt is a Marxist concept. I think we should try this really cool thing called evidence. Just call me madcap. I like individual evidence and the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    How about it's exactly the point and unnecessary fear is its own sign of weakness?
    It may be exactly your point, which you are free to make, but it is not mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    Group guilt is a Marxist concept. I think we should try this really cool thing called evidence. Just call me madcap. I like individual evidence and the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
    Ah .... I see. Not sure where "group guilt" comes into play, but who knows with you? So once the plane is blown out of the sky and 200 people are dead you have your evidence? Great. Then the MSM and the left to include people like you will be screaming for someone's head. Where do you think the Patriot Act came from? "President Bush do something and save us ..." only to be crticized by the same group from that day to this.

    I understand the 4th Amendment quite well, thanks. I also understand an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. You have to try and dovetail the two ideas as best you can. I also understand being in the position of being responsible and making a call. It ain't a fun place to be. Somebody made a call. BFD. If he/she can defend that call then so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I must have missed that comment. Good question though. I thought we were discussing Muslims getting kicked off a plane?

    Aye...that was the topic.

    TF dumped Trump's name into the thread for no constructive reason
    except to agitate.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    You were spot on. We have no way of knowing exactly how it went down and why specifically they were removed.

    You were spot on.
    Seriously, when has she ever not been???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Seriously, when has she ever not been???

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    You freakin' suckup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    You freakin' suckup.
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