Hag this all comes down to the 7 day argument we've had before. Fo me the coorect interpretaion of day in Genesis is "age". I have no problem attesting to the age of the earth is millions of years old.Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine
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Hag this all comes down to the 7 day argument we've had before. Fo me the coorect interpretaion of day in Genesis is "age". I have no problem attesting to the age of the earth is millions of years old.
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Scientists offer evidence as proof, and evidence is the foundation for a scientist's belief. Faith is the belief that an assertion is true in fact, despite all evidence to the contrary. When it comes to belief based in faith, the notion of "proof" is not relevent--only the strength of the belief is relevent.
Nonsense.
There's no such evidence that is ever presented that does not presume the existence of a creator...NONE. That's why.
I think Pale, that this is a pithy--that which is good for the goose is also good for the gander--response to the <a href="http://debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?p=81124#post81124"><b>Question for Pond-scum (Evolution) believers</b></a> posted elsewhere.
LOLz.
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so what was the first something and where did it come from .....
"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."
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TADA! You win first prize! That question illustrates exactly why your previous "nonsense" is NOT the definition of creationism. The creationist says "God," but denies the question "Who created God?"
"... whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts." - Lysander Spooner
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God is not matter; He is spirtual energy. His existence is independent of the universe.
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wooOOOOOOOooh! ScaryGhostStoryLOLz!
FYI Glockmail: The "Guy who created God" is also "independent of the universe." So is "the Guy who created the Guy who created God."
Last edited by LOki; 06-25-2007 at 07:01 PM.
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If that's the case, then what was/is the first cause?wooOOOOOOOooh! ScaryGhostStoryLOLz!
FYI Glockmail: The "Guy who created God" is also "independent of the universe." So is "the Guy who created the Guy who created God."
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There is no guy that created God.wooOOOOOOOooh! ScaryGhostStoryLOLz!
FYI Glockmail: The "Guy who created God" is also "independent of the universe." So is "the Guy who created the Guy who created God."
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Prove it.
Man is a marvelous curiosity … he thinks he is the Creator's pet … he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea.
-- Mark Twain
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It's self evident, and believed by the majority. Therefore the burden of proof is on you to prove me wrong.
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TADA! You win second prize! That question illustrates exactly why your previous "nonsense" is NOT the definition of evolutionism. The evolutionists says "evolution," but denies the question "Who created evolution?"
"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."
~Albert Camus
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TADA! You win the retarded 1st prize! I did not submit a definition for evolution! AND you win 2nd prize for confusing evolution with ambiogenisis! AND you win 3rd prize for begging the question! A clean sweep!
Last edited by LOki; 06-26-2007 at 05:49 AM.
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Not exactly right - God's existence is the conclusion upon looking at the evidence. that's how it works.
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No. Every instance of evidence presented for the existence of a creator has ALWAYS presumed the existence of a creator--that's the only way it works. If you think otherwise, submit some of this non-presumptive evidence, just don't try <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcAq9bmCeR0">Irreducible Complexity</a> on me if you plan on using as examples; those examples of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZdCxk0CnN4">Irreducible Complexity</a> have had their complexity reduced.
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