California Guard vets told to repay millions in enlistment bonuses
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/24/us/national-guard-recruitment-bonus-repayment/index.html
Unabashed Boatswain's Mate
This is Nuts!
California Guard vets told to repay millions in enlistment bonuses
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/24/us/national-guard-recruitment-bonus-repayment/index.html
I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?
"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same of others"...John Wayne in "The Shootist"
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Liberal moonbat
I read about this last week and was stunned into disbelief. The military makes a mistake and expects former recruits to pay for it? How disrespectful is that?
Unabashed Boatswain's Mate
What is not clear here is the CA National Guard, mobilized, responded and served.
They were given incentives to continue service and took those in good faith and kept going in service.
They get home and find they have lost their jobs in the public sector. Some had to refinance
their homes.
Now this crooked state wants the money back? CA is worse than NJ.
Public Works Commissioner for water dept in LA County earns over $440,000 a year.
LA County Sheriff gets over $225,000 a year.
....and here's the rub...all both have to do is stay in office for ONE YEAR, and their pension
is 100% of the salary.
So....CA is going to pull back incentives to it's Citizen Soldiers?
The ones who turn out and respond for disasters, civil insurrection, and humanitarian response?
Fuc*** Up State is CA.
Last edited by Elessar; 10-24-2016 at 09:48 PM.
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Liberal moonbat
Worse yet, members of the California National Guard reported this injustice to Congress two years ago. Congress took no action.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...nap-story.html
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Gabby..Originally Posted by gabosaurus
It was not the military. It was the State!
Aye, they are funded under the DOD, but it was the State, their Command
that issued the incentives.
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That sucks because it is a State matter.
It should have been resolved by Pete two years ago.
CA is crooked. Many wrongs are blamed on D.C., when the
corruption begins in Sacramento.
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Liberal moonbat
I haven't seen anything that lays the blame for this debacle on the state. Everything I have read points the finger at the Pentagon and the California National Guard. The Pentagon saddled recruiters with unrealistic enlistment goals and the Guard used cash incentives to meet them.
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I don't know, Gabby. The command of the National Guard is at state level unless called
up to deploy by the Pentagon.
So the fault appears to be two-fold - State and Federal. None the less, it is a bitter pill
these fine volunteers have to swallow unless someone brings this debacle to
a screeching halt.
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Super Minion
I'd heard the story, but not details. First look seems to be much more Washington, than CA at fault. One, it's NOT just CA, but throughout the country:
http://blog.theveteranssite.com/take...nuses_20161025
POSTED <time itemprop="datePublished" datetime="2016-10-24T14:26:02+00:00" style="color: rgb(196, 196, 196); font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; letter-spacing: 2px; text-transform: uppercase; box-sizing: border-box;">1 DAY AGO</time> BY JACOB H.Thousands Of Veterans Being Forced To Repay Enlistment Bonuses
Thousands of soldiers who enlisted during the height of the war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan a decade ago we given enlistment bonuses of $15,000 or more, due to the shortage of soldiers at the time. The government is now saying that those bonuses should not have been given – so they are coming after the soldiers who risked their lives, many serving multiple tours in the Middle East, to collect the money. To those soldiers, it is at best a slap in the face and disrespect of their service to their country, and at worst it is destroying the lives of veterans and their families.
The Pentagon’s National Guard Bureau, which oversees state Guard organizations, has already sent out letters to nearly 10,000 soldiers in California alone demanding repayment of $15,000, $20,000, or more and threatening collection, liens, garnished wages, and other penalties if the soldiers fail to repay the money. However, many of those soldiers are fighting back, saying they lived up to their end of the contract, and they are not the ones who made a mistake.
The overpayments that the Pentagon is now collecting from soldiers who enlisted during the height of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are mostly re-enlistment bonuses of $15-20,000, but also include college tuition payments and other incentives and bonuses given to those soldiers. The overpayments took place in every state, the Pentagon admits, but the L.A. Times recently covered the controversy since California has the largest National Guard of any state.
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"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Unabashed Boatswain's Mate
Update:
The fault lays within the CA NG leadership. Pete Wilson as governor should have had oversight:
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/2...stment-bonuses
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Super Minion
I'm not getting what you're saying, as the Pentagon appears to be leading this, according to both your link and mine. From the one I posted, I think a vet's site, it seems this is going on all over the country, but CA picked up attention, via a LA Times story?
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Unabashed Boatswain's Mate
Tell me, and us, why all other 49 states that sent NG folks overseas are not implicated?
It makes no sense at all. If CA is the only one to be brought up, then the liability is strictly
on them. Pete Wilson is in charge, as governor, of the National Guard in that state. The burden
is on CA, yet somewhat less on DC.
CA is crooked. Caught in an error, they will whine and blame 'Big Daddy' - DC, for their screw-up.
Even Fienstine and Boxer are in shock at this. And they are both howling liberals in many cases.
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Super Minion
Posted this earlier. CA has the most, but all states have members that are affected:
http://blog.theveteranssite.com/take...nuses_20161025
...The Pentagon’s National Guard Bureau, which oversees state Guard organizations, has already sent out letters to nearly 10,000 soldiers in California alone
...The overpayments took place in every state, the Pentagon admits, but the L.A. Times recently covered the controversy since California has the largest National Guard of any state...
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Unabashed Boatswain's Mate
From a retired Senior Chief USCG Boatswains Mate:
Go to: thepetitionsite.com
Chief Mac
They put on a uniform to protect our country and thr Commander in Chief puts his hand in
their pockets. God help America
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Liberal moonbat
At last, decency and common sense prevails. For now.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...026-story.html
Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter on Wednesday ordered the Pentagon to suspend efforts to claw back enlistment bonuses improperly given to thousands of California National Guard members during the height of the Iraq war.
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