Well, I would defer to you, CSM, Bilgie, Elessar, AT, DMP and other veterans, of course.
I know a shit-ton of Veterans, and not one of them has ever espoused the loathing for America, the flag, Constitution or loving the surrender-everything mentality that he's displayed. I'd bet a great deal of money that he's not.
I'm sure that there ARE worms in the military like that, you'll have scumbags in any large group of people. I can see someone like that in uniform with a draft, but that hasn't been the case in a long time. But voluntarily signing up for an institution that prides itself on American values and traditions? I just don't buy it.
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If you act like that in the Corps? You will be disposed of. One way or the other. On a ship? There are no secrets. You run your suck and you got 6 months to pay (I think the Navy deploys longer)' If bully was in, I guarantee you he was on the fast track for ship's platoon or the galley.
You just can't do that crap on a pump.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
Oh hell, there's no doubt, or so I always believed, that veterans uphold themselves in a certain manner. And I don't mean politics, as they're free to like whoever the please.
How many military threads have been participated in? How many times gone into threads that honored military folks, or veterans, or those that died or received the highest honors? Engaged in friendly discussion with fellow veterans? Or is the contempt simply too much that he cannot do so? Condemnation of specific terrorist acts? Condemnation of things that have happened to US soldiers on foreign soil? A "man that sure sucks" over high casualty events toward any US soldiers?
While I take him at his word for his service - he doesn't seem to get along very well with fellow service members. Doesn't seem to want to acknowledge bad times that hit his brothers and sisters. Perhaps he's just the quiet type and doesn't like to talk military.
He's probably gonna be 'pissed' when he reads all of this!
Bully, I love you man!!!
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
Well, Trump has more of a mandate than Hillary...
"I am allergic to piety, it makes me break out in rash judgements." - Penn Jillette
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"The man who invented the telescope found out more about heaven than the closed eyes of prayer ever discovered." - Robert G. Ingersoll
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
Shh shhh shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
He's online, don't want him to hear us
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
Of course in 37 years I met a lot who were of a liberal mindset, and a lot of strictly conservative people as well.
But I think Gunny has the clue here. Run your mouth like this on a ship or in a squadbay, you might be sucking on a bar
of soap for a while.
I prohibited disrespectful talk such as this in the open, and even took a few Junior Officers aside that got
political in open discussion. I respect the office, if not the person....so I'm not going to tear down the person
unless it is on a one-to-one discussion out of earshot.
Best solution to this identity issue would be to challenge Bully to send a sanitized copy of a DD-214 to show he is former
or Ex-Navy...send it to Jim, Gunny, or NT...don't have to reveal it in public.
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I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?
"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same of others"...John Wayne in "The Shootist"
A Deplorable!
I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?
"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same of others"...John Wayne in "The Shootist"
A Deplorable!
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?
"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same of others"...John Wayne in "The Shootist"
A Deplorable!
I'm pretty sure Bully is long out of the Navy. Gunny said before, 'we pretty much should just accept those who say they served.' I'm of that mindset, barring they say something that truly sounds off regarding their service. I don't think anyone should have to prove the served here, on a messageboard. As noted, it would seem to me bad for the morale of a unit to allow arguments to go to the level we do here, I would assume it isn't allowed-for good reason. Once you're out, all's fair.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke