Buck v. Bell

[KarlMarx]

The Nazis did much the same thing, except they permanently sterilized the retarded by killing them in mass quantities.

[Hagbard Celine]

The Nazis did much the same thing, except they permanently sterilized the retarded by killing them in mass quantities.

They practiced eugenics in order to make their "race" stronger. But as Buck v. Bell demonstrates, so did we until about the time we started fighting Naziism.

[manu1959]

They practiced eugenics in order to make their "race" stronger. But as Buck v. Bell demonstrates, so did we until about the time we started fighting Naziism.

a competitive capitalistic society would do the same thing.....except we have welfare, food stamps and thousands of social programs that prevent the gene pool from strengthen.....because we actually reward the inept

[diuretic]

I used to love the looks on my student's faces when I gave them the material on eugenics and included this case and Oliver Wendell Holmes' statement. They had no idea of the extent of eugenics in the US at that time. But to be fair it was big in the UK as well at that time. The medical profession in Germany under the Nazi regime was extremely enthusiastic about it and that was even before the Holocaust/Shoah.

[Hugh Lincoln]

I used to love the looks on my student's faces when I gave them the material on eugenics and included this case and Oliver Wendell Holmes' statement. They had no idea of the extent of eugenics in the US at that time. But to be fair it was big in the UK as well at that time. The medical profession in Germany under the Nazi regime was extremely enthusiastic about it and that was even before the Holocaust/Shoah.

And I'm sure you tell your students that Jews have been practicing eugenics for 3,000 years, through the practice of marrying the more intelligent to the more intelligent to create super-smart people, putting their mentally ill in solitude, rejecting outmarriage, slaughtering enemies in their midst, etc.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Eug...h_eugenics.htm

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0503

[glockmail]

And I'm sure you tell your students that Jews have been practicing eugenics for 3,000 years, through the practice of marrying the more intelligent to the more intelligent to create super-smart people, putting their mentally ill in solitude, rejecting outmarriage, slaughtering enemies in their midst, etc.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Eug...h_eugenics.htm

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0503

I made sure that I married someone at least as intelligent as I, why shouldn't the Jews?

[diuretic]

And I'm sure you tell your students that Jews have been practicing eugenics for 3,000 years, through the practice of marrying the more intelligent to the more intelligent to create super-smart people, putting their mentally ill in solitude, rejecting outmarriage, slaughtering enemies in their midst, etc.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Eug...h_eugenics.htm

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0503

No I don't actually because I'm more interested in the fact that the law allowed and encouraged eugenics in the US and in Europe and a judge like Holmes pronounced the way he did. Do you know Irish Catholics were targeted by the eugenicists?

Re your links - your first one is by Frederick Tobin, the well-known Holocaust denier so I'd take anything I read there with a sack of salt.

Your second one looks like a conspiracy-theory site.

Do a bit of reading on some sites that are worthy of being cited.

[nevadamedic]

And I'm sure you tell your students that Jews have been practicing eugenics for 3,000 years, through the practice of marrying the more intelligent to the more intelligent to create super-smart people, putting their mentally ill in solitude, rejecting outmarriage, slaughtering enemies in their midst, etc.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Eug...h_eugenics.htm

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0503

You think Frederick Tobin is on the up and up and the Haluocost didn't exist?

[Psychoblues]

It's all a perspective thing.

You think Frederick Tobin is on the up and up and the Haluocost didn't exist?

How are perspectives created?

[diuretic]

You think Frederick Tobin is on the up and up and the Haluocost didn't exist?

I haven't got any personal experience beyond speaking to some survivors of the Holocaust/Shoah. I have to say I didn't discuss it at length or in great depth with them. But I have no doubt it happened. You see the tattoo on the arm of a Jewish woman in her eighties and it's difficult to ask too many questions in depth.

[glockmail]

a competitive capitalistic society would do the same thing.....except we have welfare, food stamps and thousands of social programs that prevent the gene pool from strengthen.....because we actually reward the inept

Absolutely. Socialism reverses the evolution and progress of man. But we've had this conversation before, as I recall.