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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    It gets personal when such behavior is defended. Ivanka posts a picture of her and her little one. Comedian calls her you know what. Rev says she's fair game because dad said...
    I'm with elessar. Leave the kids out. And I understand his being ready for bear.
    funny thing is, i never defended the behavior and never said she was "fair game" BD.
    I said the outrage was a bit hypocritical, and all similar acts should be condemned left and right.
    people decided to read into it what you just described... and went off.
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    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    funny thing is, i never defended the behavior and never said she was "fair game" BD.
    I said the outrage was a bit hypocritical, and all similar acts should be condemned left and right.
    people decided to read into it what you just described.. and got triggered.

    There's nothing hypocritical about it, and there is no comparison.

    You're attempting to defend the indefensible, and failing miserably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    funny thing is, i never defended the behavior and never said she was "fair game" BD.
    Bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    There's nothing hypocritical about it, and there is no comparison.

    You're attempting to defend the indefensible, and failing miserably.
    last try.

    what's hard to understand about saying BOTH are wrong.
    how is that a DEFENSE of one?

    player 1: RATS are bad. they should be exterminated.
    player 2: the rats and roaches in this place should be killed, people have been ignoring all the roaches round here for a while.
    player 1: WTH!! WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING THE RATS!!! You Rat lover!!!! racist! stupid! idiot! RATS are far worse than roaches. Plus the place deserve the roaches for good reason. roaches are bad but not nearly as bad as Rats theres NO comparison, it's offensive to bring them up. Bullshit Comparison!!! what's your REAL reason for attacking and bringing up roaches all the time, we already know, You're a Rat loving #$%^& **&!!!! raaaarrrghhh!
    player 2: wth?!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    funny thing is, i never defended the behavior and never said she was "fair game" BD.
    I said the outrage was a bit hypocritical, and all similar acts should be condemned left and right.
    people decided to read into it what you just described... and went off.

    In all fairness, they are acting like at least 75% of the entire population now, whether on the 'right' or 'left' though it's becoming more and more difficult to differentiate between them. Incivility is the word of the decade.


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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    last try.

    what's hard to understand about saying BOTH are wrong.
    how is that a DEFENSE of one?

    player 1: RATS are bad. they should be exterminated.
    player 2: the rats and roaches in this place should be killed, people have been ignoring all the roaches round here for a while.
    player 1: WTH!! WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING THE RATS!!! You Rat lover!!!! racist! stupid! idiot! RATS are far worse than roaches. Plus the place deserve the roaches for good reason. roaches are bad but not nearly as bad as Rats theres NO comparison, it's offensive to bring them up. Bullshit Comparison!!! what's your REAL reason for attacking and bringing up roaches all the time, we already know, You're a Rat loving #$%^& **&!!!! raaaarrrghhh!
    player 2: wth?!!
    Both ARE wrong, but you're trying to say that they're EQUAL, and that's just not the case.

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    So I open my Spotify to throw on some tunes, and on the home page there's an ad to listen to Kayne's new album, so thinking ya, just see what this sounds like from president Trump's supporter, and within the FIRST 35 SECONDS and in the FIRST THINGS he's "rapping," there's NIGGER.

    NIGGER, NIGGER, NIGGER, NIGGER... if they can say, so can I, and don't tell me they don't LIKE IT either, because they just CAN'T STOP SAYING IT.

    NIGGER... I'm just going to say NIGGER all the time now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    It gets personal when such behavior is defended. Ivanka posts a picture of her and her little one. Comedian calls her you know what. Rev says she's fair game because dad said...
    I'm with elessar. Leave the kids out. And I understand his being ready for bear.
    Why does it get personal? You disagree on a point. You argue the point.
    Ad hominem attacks are a sign of weakness.
    I am so sick of all this name-calling.
    As a fellow poster.
    After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Why does it get personal? You disagree on a point. You argue the point.
    Ad hominem attacks are a sign of weakness.
    I am so sick of all this name-calling.
    As a fellow poster.
    I thought people would get back to their regular behaviors after some time. It's not happening. The left is still all for impeachment and the right is all about crushing their enemies.

    Mind you, I'm well aware that most on the right and left are not going to these extremes, but those that feel invested are. It honestly scares me, I fear for our republic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I thought people would get back to their regular behaviors after some time. It's not happening. The left is still all for impeachment and the right is all about crushing their enemies.

    Mind you, I'm well aware that most on the right and left are not going to these extremes, but those that feel invested are. It honestly scares me, I fear for our republic.
    The "right is about crushing their enemies?" Kathianne... REALLY?

    When was the last time "the right" kept an ENEMIES LIST?
    When was the last time "the right" weaponized the IRS?
    When was the last time "the right" SPIED on a democrat campaign?
    What was the last time "the right" PAID for a fake dossier and used the DOJ and FBI to take out a sitting president?

    Oh my... I could go on and on... you have got to be kidding me...

    I think there's a very good reason people are up in arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Why does it get personal? You disagree on a point. You argue the point.
    Ad hominem attacks are a sign of weakness.
    I am so sick of all this name-calling.
    As a fellow poster.
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    The "right is about crushing their enemies?" Kathianne... REALLY?

    When was the last time "the right" kept an ENEMIES LIST?
    When was the last time "the right" weaponized the IRS?
    When was the last time "the right" SPIED on a democrat campaign?
    What was the last time "the right" PAID for a fake dossier and used the DOJ and FBI to take out a sitting president?

    Oh my... I could go on and on... you have got to be kidding me...
    Both sides. Nixon attempted all those things, as did Kennedy and likely Johnson. I certainly wouldn't rule out that any of those things could be going on now, just as we KNOW they did under Obama.

    I am not kidding you, politicians have often been as corrupt as they can get away with, right now and for the administration before, there is little that their fans won't applaud or excuse. "Hey, tit for tat," we're done being the ones playing by the rules.

    I get it.

    There are no moderates allowed, you're either for impeaching, regardless of lack of reason if you want to keep your left creds.

    You are for going back, indicting everyone in the past administration, screaming that there's not a damn thing wrong from this President, other than his tweets and sometimes his being non-PC, which we 'love' and 'shaking things up.'

    Not long before fisticuffs, that will be fun. Sort of like Iran's parliament.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Both sides. Nixon attempted all those things, as did Kennedy and likely Johnson. I certainly wouldn't rule out that any of those things could be going on now, just as we KNOW they did under Obama.

    I am not kidding you, politicians have often been as corrupt as they can get away with, right now and for the administration before, there is little that their fans won't applaud or excuse. "Hey, tit for tat," we're done being the ones playing by the rules.

    I get it.

    There are no moderates allowed, you're either for impeaching, regardless of lack of reason if you want to keep your left creds.

    You are for going back, indicting everyone in the past administration, screaming that there's not a damn thing wrong from this President, other than his tweets and sometimes his being non-PC, which we 'love' and 'shaking things up.'

    Not long before fisticuffs, that will be fun. Sort of like Iran's parliament.
    Oh come on... Watergate was kiddie camp campared to what the democrats have been up to.

    Lets have some proof Nixon or Kennedy or Johnson did anything as bad as what we see now?

    I'm old enough to remember those days, and we saw NOTHING like the level of corruption we're seeing now... NOTHING... but if you have proof it happened, I'd love to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Oh come on... Watergate was kiddie camp campared to what the democrats have been up to.

    Lets have some proof Nixon or Kennedy or Johnson did anything as bad as what we see now?

    I'm old enough to remember those days, and we saw NOTHING like the level of corruption we're seeing now... NOTHING... but if you have proof it happened, I'd love to see it.
    I'm not playing those games. Nixon would have been removed, we're both old enough to remember that. He cared enough about the country to resign, the country let him go away.

    We're never going to have 'proof' of JFK, LBJ, in large measure by the THEN corrupt FBI under Hoover. I'm not going to find what you demand. Yeah, I know. Obama was this and that. Nixon was better. Trump is god.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Why does it get personal? You disagree on a point. You argue the point.
    Ad hominem attacks are a sign of weakness.
    I am so sick of all this name-calling.
    As a fellow poster.
    Because what Samantha Bee said was horrendous. Making false equivalence as was done here is also horrendous.

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