Those DAMNED Hippies !!!Originally Posted by Prince Lemon
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Those DAMNED Hippies !!!
Your head exploded
Gee I'm shocked to see that JT trolled this threadI wasn't commenting on the OP, just you wanting to keep whitey down.
You complained about whitey running things so everything that whitey runs must be the same, they're not.
True Calvinist
They were complete anarchists who worshiped drugs,flowers,pacifism,and all the debasements.Anti-war protests and much more.The legendary Beatles are their example.Those DAMNED Hippies !!!
Life, Love, Truth, 3 gems
78.4% of adult Americans are listed as Christians.
Worldwide the estimated number of Christians is 2.1 billion and Islam comes in second at 1.5 billion.
Estimated number of Christian churches in USA is betwen 300,000 and 400,000...
Our founders intended freedom -OF- religion not freedom-FROM- religion.
The religion here during that time was overwhelmingly Christian.
IN GOD WE TRUST, should be a major clue that our founders never intended it to be freedom-FROM- religion!
Now in recent decades the leftist, marxists and socialists will support Islam against Christianity although they prefer no religion. Thats because they seek to use Islam to destroy Christianity thinking that they can then control Islam. What fools, the chimp thinking it can control the Lion!
Islam will use them like the fools they are and then destroy them without even blinking an eye.
As their appeasement is viewed in Islam as pure cowardice! Fact... -Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Transplanted Yankee
Do a little research into when In God We Trust came into being and you'll see the FOUNDERS had nothing to do with it.
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. -- Susan B. Anthony
Plant Parenthood.
Heard a wonderful Carlin quote the ither day, in a rant about hypocrisys and double standards in the states, it went something like 'America was founded on good old double standards. Thats why its in our culture, america was founded by slave owners who wanted to be free!'
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
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Tyr,
We both know that you are not ignorant but so that there is no confusion as to which poster needs to read and learn I'd like to address the statement below:
"Do a little research into when In God We Trust came into being and you'll see the FOUNDERS had nothing to do with it."
You sir, seem to posses the same "higher than thou" mentality of the so-called leftist/elitist which only confirms that THEY professed themselves to be wise..." OK, we all know the rest so I'm not going to bring up a Biblical point here for this topic....although it does have something to do with the state that this Christian Nation is in.
Many of today's society lack education and confuse their education with what they actually received...indoctrination, which is why I'm doing my best to be civil but after the above display and attempt to make another poster look ignorant, simply because they have a firm grip on the REAL America and what she has stood for all these years, I felt the need to explain something to the more simple minded among us. Mr. Tyr knows darn well when that phrase appeared on our bills and coins and most other places of prominence. What he also knows is that there is a phrase in our earliest of documents that our founding fathers declared with purpose and importance. They knew full well that our independence depended upon it so they set the foundation that this great Christian Nation lives by to this very day. It is also the foundation that those of the left seek to destroy (our core). I suggest, SIR, that you read up on those very early documents and try not to read something else into them. You can start by trying to get around this phrase "...by our Creator." Our founding fathers knew that Christ provided freedom (gov takes away freedom). Gov. didn't give us the right to buy, carry and use firearms and it certainly doesn't mean that gov. needs to be protected FROM religion. Any yahoo knows why most people of many faiths came here and made such a journey....because someone across the big pond was mandating how they worshiped. Well, I'm sure this has fallen on deaf ears, thick head and a hard heart so I'll close with an address to my friend.
Good post Tyr...your are spot on in your analysis regarding the leftist using islam and ultimately being destroyed by this freedom-less religion of FORCE...why the word islam itself explains this perfectly. THEY used Hitler and thought he could be controlled and we seem to be repeating history. The current occupier in the White House is using the same tactics of division and blame.
Life, Love, Truth, 3 gems
First, I am quite knowedgable in history my friend. THEY ACTUALLY TAUGHT HISTORY BACK WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL OVER 40 YEARS AGO. We were taught the founding of this great nation and the Constitution as well. Guess what?
We were taught the reasons for and meaning of the Declaration of Independence too. Our founding document, greatest governing document ever written by man (Constitution) was predated by the Declaration as you may well know. Our Creator was the central point in their message to King George (POINTING TO A HIGHER AUTHORITY THEY DID RECOGNISE) and that reveals the importance that they placed in religion and God . For with these words of wisdom they set the tone for how they thought free men should live and why they refused to be enslaved by the authority of a human King.
"We hold these truths to be self evident , that all men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Sir, that pretty much sums up the reason for and the history of this great nation since its birth.
The founders risked their ALL to create a nation based upon those stated GOD-GIVEN rights.
They did indeed strive to also give religious freedom to others and mandated that that our government should not ever become a theocracy!
That does not make our nation not a Christian nation it surely makes our government not ONE!
FOR THE PEOPLE ARE FREE TO CHOOSE AND MY PREVIOUS POST HIGHLIGHTED A FEW FACTS THAT POINTED TO THAT CHOICE.
Now maybe your suggestion that I educate myself was indeed not intended as a slight but NOT KNOWING YOU I HAVE NO WAY TO BE SURE OF THAT.
In the future please bear in mind that I am not a fool nor am I an uneducated man.
Your kind attention to detail in this matter will be appropriately appreciated.--Tyr
Last edited by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot; 06-05-2012 at 10:14 AM.
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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THANKS AMIGO.
I hope my reply to that member explains better my previous post. Also hope that we both benefited from the exchange. My reply admittedly was passionate about the greatness of this nation and its founding and I hope will not be taken as an aggressive post meant to offend as it was not my intent. However this is a Christian nation despite obama's lie that it is not ..
In short , fffff-that lying scum obama ...--Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Plant Parenthood.
Interesting, that must of been why they were so quick to free black slaves fromt their human masters, and grant them their GOD-GIVEN rights.
Question - What worth is a god given right, when you need other humans to give it to you?
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
Life, Love, Truth, 3 gems
Slavery has always been wrong and history shows its always been around. I'll not defend it in any time period regardless of the race of the victims. The fact that it took almost 80 more years after the Constitution was ratified and a Civil War to bring about its demise is indeed tragic. Yet the birth of our nation and the ratification of the Constitution had to be accomplished first. One step at a time my friend.. A subject for another thread perhaps.. -Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Plant Parenthood.
If you want to bring up statements like "The founders risked their ALL to create a nation based upon those stated GOD-GIVEN rights." you have to accept and explain why slaves were part of the deal. If the founding fathers had wanted to do anything about slavery they could have, they didn't. Appartenly being a slave to a king is a breech of GOD GIVEN rights, being a slave to some rich guy wasn't.
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
Super Minion
You're ignorant of history. They wouldn't have been able to have formed a government without the 3/5 compromise. That was the best they could do. Even then, it was touch & go, the anti-federalists were concentrated in the South.
It sort of reminds me of women getting the franchise, which had also been around since before ratification. Along with prohibition.
Both of these were tabled over and over again, for abolition of slavery. It took the Civil War, Reconstruction, and WWI to get the amendments for women's vote and prohibition passed. Of course, prohibition caused more problem than it solved.Which is why it was revoked.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Life, Love, Truth, 3 gems
The great need to have -ALL- the former colonies join and agree to the ratification of the Constitution did indeed require tabling the slavery issue. Now the fact that you with hindsight think it so terrible a decision doesnt really mean much since we did birth a nation and did eventually stop all slavery. The price we paid for that delay was its exspansion and the high costs of the Civil War. By costs I mean loss of life from both sides! Be my guest, start a thread on Slavery ,its Evils and why America stinks for not abolishing it sooner. I'll post there. This old dog has been known to hunt more than just rabbits my friend..--Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Life, Love, Truth, 3 gems
Sorry missed your post first go round..You're ignorant of history. They wouldn't have been able to have formed a government without the 3/5 compromise. That was the best they could do. Even then, it was touch & go, the anti-federalists were concentrated in the South.
It sort of reminds me of women getting the franchise, which had also been around since before ratification. Along with prohibition.
Both of these were tabled over and over again, for abolition of slavery. It took the Civil War, Reconstruction, and WWI to get the amendments for women's vote and prohibition passed. Of course, prohibition caused more problem than it solved.
Exactly. It was touch and go to finally get to ratification. The birth of the nation was far more important to accomplish first!! Later there would be time to attempt to solve such issues. If one wants to bake an apple pie first step is to get the apples! As my grandfather used to say often, "dont put the cart before the horse"..-Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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