I take my stand, you?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

How about we outlaw ALL religions?

Islam is a cult pretending to be a religion. It is quasi/political/military /"religious"
ideology THAT wears a false cloak while it brainwashes hundreds of millions into believing
Allah spoke to his favorite pervert child molester(Mohamboy) giving divine decrees to follow.
Namely, murder non-believers or else convert/enslave them.

http://markhumphrys.com/islam.killings.html

•Tears of Jihad. He claims that Islam is the greatest killer of all time, worse than Christianity, fascism or communism.


•Bill Warner interview, Feb 2007 (and copy) ◦ "First, let's see how ignorant we are about the history of political Islam. How many Christians can tell you how Turkey or Egypt became Islamic? What happened to the Seven Churches of Asia mentioned in Paul's letters? Find a Jew who can tell you the Jewish history of dhimmitude (second class citizens who serve Islam). What European knows that white women were the highest priced slaves in Mecca? Everyone knows how many Jews Hitler killed, but find an unbeliever who can tell you how many died in jihad over the last 1400 years."
◦ "Jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to be the victims of jihad. The history of political Islam is the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest. Half of the glorious Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million Hindus killed. The first Western Buddhists were the Greeks descended from Alexander the Great's army in what is now Afghanistan. Jihad destroyed all of Buddhism along the silk route. About 10 million Buddhists died. The conquest of Buddhism is the practical result of pacifism. Zoroastrianism was eliminated from Persia. The Jews became permanent dhimmis throughout Islam. In Africa over 120 million Christians and animists have died over the last 1400 years of jihad. Approximately 270 million nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political Islam. These are the Tears of Jihad which are not taught in any school."

Approximately 270 million humans murdered. Yet other sources state as low as 240 million murdered by Islam.

Islam is now set to get nukes (Iran) how many millions more??????
Think about it America, your president is one of them.. He is helping Iran get nukes. A fact.

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HOW ABOUT WE TARGET THE RIGHT ONE!--Tyr

[aboutime]

How about we outlaw ALL religions?

Great idea. Then....STUPIDITY will rule, for certain.

[DLT]

How about we outlaw ALL religions?

Why? It is a basic human right to be able to 'believe' as you choose. Any religion that does not preach to its followers that lying and killing infidels or non-believers is fine and dandy should be no problem to anyone. When it goes too far and becomes, not a religion, but a political movement and a means to control the masses, then it's not technically a "religion".

Christianity does not teach followers that they should lie to any non-Christians, because it's justified by God. It does not teach that Christians should go out and murder any infidels/non-believers. Quite the opposite, in fact.

So what would the point of outlawing Christianity be? Other than handing the planet over to the evil aholes that are even now, as we speak, turning the world into one big cesspool (or trying to).

Just my two cents.

Oh....and welcome to the forum.

[aboutime]

How about we outlaw ALL religions?

Who decides what IS, or ISN'T a religion? Athiests?

If non-believers fear something they INSIST, does not exist. What would be a reason to outlaw anything they call religion...if it doesn't exist in the first place?

So. What would be the logic in outlawing something some people claim...ISN'T?

[aboutime]

Consider me standing right next to you. I refuse to allow ANYONE. No matter who they claim to be. No matter what superior status they claim to have in life, and despite their claimed higher educational training.

I first took my Oath. Just as Obama took an oath, with every present member of Congress. To protect, and defend the United States of America and our Constitution.

When I retired from active duty after 30 years in 1995. That oath I took, while raising my hand, and swearing. SO HELP ME GOD, did not retire on that day.

I will defend, honor, and obey that Constitution until I take my last breath, and NOBODY, but NOBODY will ever change that.

Which reminds me of the words our Democrat, Liberal fellow Americans hate. But still apply now.

"You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN."

[Dilloduck]

How about American Muslims ? What's the plan with them ?

[taft2012]

How about American Muslims ? What's the plan with them ?

I imagine the same as was done with American communists.

[tailfins]

How about American Muslims ? What's the plan with them ?

I trust Bibi Netanyahu. He points out that Arabs (most of which are Muslim, I presume) live better in Israel than in other countries in the region. No one can reasonably say Netanyahu appeases Muslims. Bibi doesn't show the Klan-like hatred for Muslims I see here in the US. If you want an example of that kind of thing in the US:

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...nclick_check=1

As a contrast, here is where Netanyahu stands:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/pm-cond...ace-in-israel/

[Robert A Whit]

I trust Bibi Netanyahu. He points out that Arabs (most of which are Muslim, I presume) live better in Israel than in other countries in the region. No one can reasonably say Netanyahu appeases Muslims. Bibi doesn't show the Klan-like hatred for Muslims I see here in the US. If you want an example of that kind of thing in the US:

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...nclick_check=1

As a contrast, here is where Netanyahu stands:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/pm-cond...ace-in-israel/

Name any Muslim who will admit being anti American. Notice I did not say anti USA for given their population growth (See book by Mark Steyn, America Alone for some facts), in the future, the number of Muslims in the USA will make them the majority. Globally they are growing so fast that in some countries, formerly Christian, they now have Muslim majorities.

I asked one Muslim (actually a former Musllim, who is currently saying he is a Catholic) Sia from Iran to tell me honestly if the Muslim faith is violent. Not 1200 or 1500 years back, but right now. Sia explained to me that they are violent and he explained why. He said since he left Iran and became an American citizen, it was not compatable for him to remain a Muslim and live here given he despises violence.

Now, Sia got a college education in Iran and moved eventually to the USA fearing he would die unless he got proper care for his heart condition. He legally went to Germany hoping for said care. Sadly the Germans told him he had to go to the USA for that sort of heart care.

So, he came here on a visitors visa and became illegal and somehow managed to get amnesty. I think it was that vaunted Reagan Amnesty that democrats would love to repeat.

See how it worked for us the last time? They want to repeat that mistake.

Now, I happen to enjoy the company of Sia when he comes by. I think since Sia worked in the loan business and sold property for commission, and had took the risk of buying high priced homes just in time for them to fall in price, he probably is on some government aid program of some sort. I wish he came by to chat.

When Sia who hated the America flag so much he burned it in Iran, to tell me Muslims are violent, took guts. Were he still a Muslim, I suppose he would be killed if somebody knew what he said.

[tailfins]

Name any Muslim who will admit being anti American. Notice I did not say anti USA for given their population growth (See book by Mark Steyn, America Alone for some facts), in the future, the number of Muslims in the USA will make them the majority. Globally they are growing so fast that in some countries, formerly Christian, they now have Muslim majorities.

I asked one Muslim (actually a former Musllim, who is currently saying he is a Catholic) Sia from Iran to tell me honestly if the Muslim faith is violent. Not 1200 or 1500 years back, but right now. Sia explained to me that they are violent and he explained why. He said since he left Iran and became an American citizen, it was not compatable for him to remain a Muslim and live here given he despises violence.

Now, Sia got a college education in Iran and moved eventually to the USA fearing he would die unless he got proper care for his heart condition. He legally went to Germany hoping for said care. Sadly the Germans told him he had to go to the USA for that sort of heart care.

So, he came here on a visitors visa and became illegal and somehow managed to get amnesty. I think it was that vaunted Reagan Amnesty that democrats would love to repeat.

See how it worked for us the last time? They want to repeat that mistake.

Now, I happen to enjoy the company of Sia when he comes by. I think since Sia worked in the loan business and sold property for commission, and had took the risk of buying high priced homes just in time for them to fall in price, he probably is on some government aid program of some sort. I wish he came by to chat.

When Sia who hated the America flag so much he burned it in Iran, to tell me Muslims are violent, took guts. Were he still a Muslim, I suppose he would be killed if somebody knew what he said.

If all the people that get profiled as terrorists happen to be Muslim, I don't have a problem with that. However, it is an American principle to have freedom of religion. If being a Muslim PLUS some other activity points to someone being an enemy of our nation, I'm all for that. Taking action against someone SOLELY for their religion doesn't sit well with me.

[fj1200]

... what specific actions are you suggesting?

Do you suggest that we outlaw Islam in America ?

How about American Muslims ? What's the plan with them ?

My mistake if an answer to these questions were answered amidst the rantings and chest thumpings.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

My mistake if an answer to these questions were answered amidst the rantings and chest thumpings.

1. How about first we as a nation admit the problem!!???
2. Then we as a nation, the government , form a plan to stop Islams goal of destroying us.

How about you guys that are all for ignoring or denying the problem present your case instead of asking question after question? Doing so in an attempt to find something else to ridicule, deny or just generally piss and moan about. Either agree, refute my linked facts or ignore but this sideshow type stuff isnt cutting it.

Give your own suggestions regardless of whether they agree or not.
Demanding that I give a specific plan is silly. I've given a general plan several times in my replies here.
Im not president or dictator so why expect me to have the solution?
Its a very complex problem of how to limit Islam within the context of not denying them their religious freedom!
We have to stay within the Constitution rights they have but also stop the planned subversion and violence that will surely come.

Why expect me to give a solution to a problem you guys have so far denied exists!!??-Tyr

[tailfins]

1. How about first we as a nation admit the problem!!???
2. Then we as a nation, the government , form a plan to stop Islams goal of destroying us.

How about you guys that are all for ignoring or denying the problem present your case instead of asking question after question? Doing so in an attempt to find something else to ridicule, deny or just generally piss and moan about. Either agree, refute my linked facts or ignore but this sideshow type stuff isnt cutting it.

Give your own suggestions regardless of whether they agree or not.
Demanding that I give a specific plan is silly. I've given a general plan several times in my replies here.
Im not president or dictator so why expect me to have the solution?
Its a very complex problem of how to limit Islam within the context of not denying them their religious freedom!
We have to stay within the Constitution rights they have but also stop the planned subversion and violence that will surely come.

Why expect me to give a solution to a problem you guys have so far denied exists!!??-Tyr

I never denied a problem exists. I ask for a solution because uncontrolled hatred can result in stupid responses. Arson, discrimination and harassment of US citizens that happen to be Muslim come to mind. I'm all for a well thought out plan using the world's best experts on the subject matter with Benjamin Netanyahu topping that list.

[fj1200]

Of what good is peace if it is bought at the cost of sacrificing all that we hold dear? There is a great failure in our country today and that is the failure to understand total submission. What total submission is and how it could lead to our demise. The greatest example of total submission today is Islam. Yes, Islam is the essence of total submission and it demands that not only from its followers but also from all that it confronts.

Wow, is this broken record still playing?

[gabosaurus]

Wow, is this broken record still playing?

It keeps skipping.

Everyone who has strong beliefs thinks they are right. The fundamentalists believe they are right because that is all they have ever been taught. They live in a society of controlled thought. There is no other side.
The only truly enlightened people are those who acknowledge the existence of both sides. If you close off your mind and only consider one side, what makes you any better than a terrorist?
If this confuses you, forget it and go back to watching wrestling on TV.